Need an Gaming PC for WoW Legion on Ultra Settingd

BLAKE96

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Hey Guys,

my priority is to play WoW on Ultra without lags even in raids.
My budget is 1000$ it can get a little bit higher if its needed (100-150$).
So i thougth about an i7-7700 as an processor and an Geforce gtx 1060 or 1070 as an grafic card.

THANKS FOT THE HELP
:D
Ps: sry for my bad english
 
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this is over budget - perhaps with a few tweaks here and there ... someone can get it under ? without changing the core components - if not then go with the 1060 6gb. if you're playing @ 1080p 60Hz i'd go with the 1060 6gb anyway .

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€343.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€45.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z270 MARK 2 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€154.84 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€67.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital -...

adiec

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($75.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING Video Card ($366.89 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($104.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1113.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 15:14 EDT-0400
 

adiec

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why? the m.2 is not going to offer gaming performance increases and an i5 7600 with a z270 motherboard is a poor selection. if you mean the i5 7600k then you'll have to factor in the cost of an aftermarket cooler and then it becomes a poor choice compared with the i7 7700. the OP is looking for pure gaming performance .. then the I7s are the best cpus for gaming. the choice is between the r5 1600 , r7 1700 and the i7 7700 and the i7 wins when it comes to gaming .
 

jowen3400

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The 7600k with a Hyper 212 is far and away better for that. and less than your i7. Far and a way. Better OPS. Why Cheap on the board? I don't understand that. For load times m.2/ssd WAY better. And if you use a 250 chipset you cut down your PCIe lanes. That is why you use a z270 chipset
 

BLAKE96

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Hey guys

Thanks for the answers so far.
@adiec im purchasing everything in germany from the website alternate .
Maybe the gtx 1070 is to expensive but will everything fit with the 1060.
 

jowen3400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($379.00 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1155.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 15:31 EDT-0400
 

jowen3400

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lol ok That would be a AMD build if you want that way.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($379.00 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1212.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 15:33 EDT-0400
 
About the ABOVE build (link at top):
a) DDR4 memory is too slow. It should be 3000MHz or 3200MHz to prevent performance drops. That's well documented (not comparable to Intel which can go slower).

Memory should also be bought as a kit (i.e. 2x8GB).

b) I wouldn't spend money on a 512GB SSD. Start with a 256GB SSD then add drives as needed.

c) Not sure about the case. It's "okay" but probably not what I'd use for a build this expensive.

OTHER:
I could max out WOW on my GTX680 graphics card (similar to GTX1050Ti) at 2560x1440 from what I remember. If you want the GTX1070 for something else fine, but for WOW it's probably way overkill.

*I believe that the CPU core performance was the main issue for some slowdowns so in that case the i7-7700K would be the best CPU. It's not a GPU issue.
 

adiec

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you've crippled this build using that ram .
 

jowen3400

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I was thinking a 256 the issue is space wow is pushing 50 GB already. So to aid that, by not having a tb and a 256 GB I went for a 500 GB SSD
 

adiec

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so you're suggesting between the choice of more cores / threads you would take the 4c/4t cpu because of its clock speed ? and spend the same amount of money ? price/performance . i also would not take the hyper evo 212 over the c7 h7 or h5. . i also don't see the point in paying more for a PSU when the cxm series is of sufficient quality.
 
Just my two cents to repeat:
1) RAID performance, again, to my understanding is a CPU issue. The fastest cores, such as an i5-7600K or i7-7700K.

2) For most things, in general, I like building around the R5-1600 (6C/12T CPU) RYZEN but it won't be the best choice for WOW in particular.

3) I can't find really good BENCHMARKS that show how CPU's compare in large RAID's so much of it's anecdotal but the evidence is pretty solid and common for MMO's to be CPU limited with larger maps especially (more data to be processed client side).

4) If you don't want to overclock, that's cool as the i7-7700 is pretty high, but frankly I'd try to get to a motherboard that supports Intel's OPTANE memory. It's pretty awesome. Then LATER ON invest in a stick of 32GB when it's $50 or so.

5) I started a build but it's really FRUSTRATING trying to balance everything to stay in the budget because I like to put in a more expensive MOTHERBOARD than most people so I usually end up with a cheaper graphics card. Also wanted an SSD but trying to stay on budget AND fit in an i7-7700K (which I felt the best choice for WOW and having some future proof to thread count) might be ideal.

There's no perfect solution frankly.

Also, I don't play WOW anymore. Exactly how LOW are the dips? If you can mostly maintain 60FPS with occasional above 40FPS dips on a RYZEN R5-1600 then maybe consider that as an all around good CPU with future proofing in the threads for future games, multi-threaded apps, multi-tasking etc.


6) If you can't maintain a mostly solid 60FPS, VSYNC ON experience then I would recommend forcing on ADAPTIVE VSYNC which auto toggles VSYNC ON and OFF.


The purpose of this is so when you drop below 60FPS you don't add STUTTERING which is what you get if your FPS can't match the Hz rate (60FPS at 60Hz). With VSYNC OFF you then get SCREEN TEARING but that's preferable IMO to stuttering/lag.
 

adiec

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crushes it :/ that's erm dramatic . in an era when multi core multi thread is becoming more of a requirement than a luxury the current line up of i5s are are a poor choice and when you consider they both run at the same boost frequency (4.2ghz) at stock clocks it makes it even more of a poor choice . but you're entitled to your opinion :) and me to mine :)
 

adiec

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you're offering the better advice due to your knowledge of the game . personally i believe opting for the lower core/thread count is not a good idea for the long term . i mean with a better system the OP may start to look at playing AAA titles and i have said before on this forum - what used to be meant by a gaming pc - doesn't really fit the description any more with live streaming now becoming a huge part of 'gaming'. that requires the higher core/thread count .. and it's better to take that into consideration now.. rather than regret it in the future . that's my opinion anyhow :)
 

Rexper

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... Firstly, the i5 doesn't 'crush' the i7. Next, the 212 has already been beaten and not such a great cooler anymore due to its size and price. A cryorig m9i would be a cheaper choice or a h7 for more performance.

Also, before we even argue what CPU to get, it should be clear of your performance goal / framerate desire.
 

adiec

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this is over budget - perhaps with a few tweaks here and there ... someone can get it under ? without changing the core components - if not then go with the 1060 6gb. if you're playing @ 1080p 60Hz i'd go with the 1060 6gb anyway .

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€343.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€45.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z270 MARK 2 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€154.84 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€67.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€55.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (€401.78 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case (€66.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€69.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1205.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 22:48 CEST+0200
 
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