Is 90c high ? (i7-7700k)

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NH-D15S, 160mm so it "very likely" fit your case consider the Hyper 212 EVO is 157mm. Among the quietest and among the best air cooler available, and it's still cheaper than some competitors ($79.99 vs Cryorig R1 Universal $89.99 which gives almost the same performance) even though it's Noctua with 6 years warranty.

You can buy it straight from Noctua via Newegg, if you're not in the US. If US Newegg sells it cheaper
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608072

Emanuel Elmo

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Based on this thread on tomshardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3323900/7700k-safe-temps.html
those temps seems normal.

Hopefully someone else will chime in and confirm or not.
 
That's pretty hot yes. What sort of case cooling do you have setup and what are your ambient room temps where the pc's located?

It's possible you may not have gotten the cooler mounted quite flat, to remount it would require cleaning off thermal paste from both cpu and the base of the cooler with a lint free cloth and some isopropyl alcohol, reapplying fresh thermal compound and making sure to tighten the cooler just a turn or two at a time on each of the screws. Work in an "X" shape, ie top left, bottom right, top right, bottom left and repeat. Tightening one too far can cause the cooler to mount a little crooked/uneven.

There's also a screw in the middle of that cooler under the cooling fins, you can try turning it a little (clockwise) to tighten and increase mounting pressure. Just don't crank down on it too hard, excessive pressure may damage the newer cpu's that use a thinner pcb than previous (4th gen and earlier) models.

What program are you reading temps in? You might get better results using something like realtemp.
https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

Here is a temp guide with references to core temps on the cpu you're using.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

If nothing else works you may need a better cooler. Something like a scythe mugen 5 should work. It's no taller (a bit shorter) than the 212 evo. The mugen 5 cools similar (within a couple degrees) of a larger nh-d15s and is offset to prevent ram conflicts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q9QRsY/scythe-mugen-5-512-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5000

Some reviews.
http://www.modders-inc.com/scythe-mugen-5-cpu-cooler-review/4/
https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/7565-scythe-mugen-5-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=5
 

DSzymborski

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Removing heat is essentially a physics issue, so it's either a reporting error or a physical heat transfer/CPU fan issue. Have you tried other software to look at temperatures? Might as well get that out of the way first.
 

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I have re-mounted it, and then used an isopropyl alcohol kit I bought a few months ago. This didn't change much unfortunately. As for room temps it's pretty hot where i live at the moment, so that could be one factor, and as for where my case is located it's located out in the open so there is a lot of fresh air and nothing blocking the pc.
As for case fans, i have one next to the cpu cooler and one at the front. The front one is facing the drives.
 

jutthenut

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Used real temp, and it seems to hover around 70c most of the time, however it's does spike pretty high to 85c - 90c. It spikes when doing normal application such as opening browser or spotify. for example when opening spotify it will jump from 35c to 60c. There is nothing I can do about that as intel says it's "normal". Just don't want it to spike under load, otherwise it may kick the bucket and BSOD.

 

DSzymborski

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I might explore one of Noctua's higher-end offerings. Some way or another, you don't want to be spiking that high!
 
You could try going into the bios and setting the core voltage (vcore) manually. It's possible left on auto it's providing more voltage than necessary which will cause excessive heat. It needs enough vcore to remain stable but anything beyond stable is excess. For instance if your cpu can run at 1.2v stable but auto has it closer to 1.28v it will run hotter with no gain.

It was mentioned that it's pretty hot, does that include ambient room temps? Keep in mind that cooler performance in tests and benchmarks are usually done in a room that's around 22c (what's considered 'normal'). If the room your pc is in is significantly warmer, around 30c or higher then that won't help matters. Ambient room temps have a roughly linear effect on cpu temps. Use of an air conditioner to drop temps 10c will drop cpu temps by around 8-10c.

Along with being a bit hot right now several things in combination are likely working against you. The 212 evo is a budget cooler, hot temps, high clock speeds out of the box. A faster/hotter running cpu already needs adequate cooling, even more so when it's above average room temp.

The 212 evo does ok for the price but it's at the lower end of performance. Even with a second fan on it the cooler doesn't benefit too greatly. Maybe 1-3c or so. It's what's called a 'push/pull' setup and that really only benefits tightly spaced cooler/radiator fins or thicker coolers. From front where the intake fan is mounted to the rear the 212 evo just isn't that large and a single fan is pretty efficient.

Just out of curiosity since you mentioned 2 fans on the cpu cooler, they're both blowing the same direction right? Ie the front fan is pushing air to the rear and the back fan is also pushing air to the rear? Just making sure you didn't accidentally mount the rear fan backwards with both fans blowing toward one another and cancelling each other out. All in all sounds like you're a good candidate for a better cooler.

Spiking when opening programs isn't abnormal, the cpu can go from idle to 50% load rather quickly and temps follow. In the 60c range isn't troubling, breaching 90c is. It will thermal throttle at around 100c and automatically reduce clockspeed to reduce temps to a safer level but it's not good for it to run that hot all the time. More of a failsafe to prevent catastrophic failure than it is a normal running condition.
 

jutthenut

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Thank You for the help my friend. I think I will just start saving for a better cooler. What one would you suggest ? I would prefer it to be rather quiet and it needs to be under 158mm. :) Also when it comes to voltages, it wont let me turn them off in the BIOS, i input the value that I want. however when i bot into windows it keeps auto voltage on. Very Odd


 

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NH-D15S, 160mm so it "very likely" fit your case consider the Hyper 212 EVO is 157mm. Among the quietest and among the best air cooler available, and it's still cheaper than some competitors ($79.99 vs Cryorig R1 Universal $89.99 which gives almost the same performance) even though it's Noctua with 6 years warranty.

You can buy it straight from Noctua via Newegg, if you're not in the US. If US Newegg sells it cheaper
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608072

 
Solution
I listed links in previous comments to the mugen 5 (scythe). Not sure where you're located or pricing, it performs similar to noctua coolers for less money (about 2/3 the price) in the u.s. If you're located elsewhere not sure what is or isn't available to you or how pricing is in your region.