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So I would like to build my own desktop. I spent about $2300 on a awesome laptop(Asus), but have been researching a lot and noticed I could build a better desktop for much cheaper. I would like an awesome setup, and was wondering if anyone could recommend a place where I could buy great shells and parts. I have found a few good stores, but would like to know if any one else has any recommendations. I had a Mac for a while, so have been out of the gaming game for a bit. So I would greatly appreciate any help from all who have some great solutions!

Thank you!

I am a programmer, not a hardcore gamer, but will probably stray towards it as I have got rid of my Xbox and PS4.

Where can I buy a shell like the ones Xotic and Digital storm have?
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I posted above. 4k is the best option for you given your mixed application.
Return the 960 Pro you bought and get this instead.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($241.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.69 @ OutletPC)...
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Where do you live?
How much of your money can we spend? ;)
What monitor/s will you be using?
Does your programming software use multiple cores and threads?

In the meantime a good setup from Intel: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/coozie7/saved/#view=7fLmGX This is a base build, it can be tweaked to increase performance or lower costs as required.

And on the AMD side: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/coozie7/saved/#view=TX7NGX With 8 cores and 16 available threads that big Zen CPU is a monster-IF your software demands it! There's more memory and a much faster graphics card, again, this can be tweaked as required.
 
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Live in the US. I do use mutli-threading and at times do 3D modeling. I just bought a Samsung 960 Pro 512 SSD drive which I was considering putting into my laptop, but will now put it in a desktop. As far as spending, I am willing to spend 1500 more at least. The SSD drive I have is was almost $600+.
 
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What's the max?
Here's a well balanced list to get you started.
The 960 Pro is more than twice the cost of a 960 Evo and performs only a little faster.
Return that if you can and get this setup.
That should bring your total 'minimum' quoted budget to about 2100 right?
This will also allow for great CUDA acceleration and 4k 60fps ultra gaming.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($241.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($683.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.89 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($399.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2199.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-27 05:19 EDT-0400
 
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^ small changes to the above build :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - DARK ROCK TF 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($75.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($248.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($683.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master - CM 590 III (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($399.00 @ Adorama)
Total: $2277.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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a bit powerful cooler
same samsung b die higher speed ram
a batter case
more headroom with that PSU
a 2k 144hz G sync monitor.
 
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4k with an IPS panel (which is needed) is a much better choice given the application of the system, a 1440p TN panel won't do it.
The 590 III has a far more plasticy construction and is kind of annoying with cable management if going non-modular, the 100R is cheaper and has a higher build quality.
The Dark Rock TF is also overkill for the 1700X, the most I would go is a Cryorig H5, although a H7 will be plenty.
 
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"I am a programmer, not a hardcore gamer, but will probably stray towards it."
" I do use mutli-threading and at times do 3D modeling."
Gaming isn't the central focus here, 4k provides the best balance for you @OP imo.
Even in gaming, the 1080Ti will run stuff at Ultra 4k easily.
Mb on the pricing, read 298 in my head! :p
 
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Actually, I would start gaming on it! I really do not want to use my laptop as much for gaming, even though it is a Asus ROG. I would prefer to play on a desktop and be able to play any game with no lag and still build my HTML and programming docs with no issues. I have looked through some of these recommendations and they look pretty solid. Any other input for the builds?
 
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For the case, I would actually looking at the Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case. For the Samsung SSDs, I can max those out as I get a 75% discount from them. I was thinking of getting my monitor from them as well. With these changes, any better recommendations now?

Thank you!
 
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I will start gaming hard on it. I did recently get rid of my Xbox, so I would love the option to easily game and not be worried about having issues. I play shogun, Total war and some games like that currently.
 
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@ Ziggs57: Looks like you're getting somewhere, mate.

Some general points:
If you don't want to overclock, the R7 1700X is a little faster than the R7 1700 but it doesn't come with a boxed cooler, making it still more expensive but it's the most stable option.
If you do want to overclock both the R7 1700 and 1700X will reach a similar limit, so in this case I'd go for the 1700 and add a reasonable cooler to it, this is the most cost effective option but potentially the least stable.

Right now the Ryzen MB/chipset is a little immature-read released too early-so it can be fussy about memory speeds over DDR4 3000, motherboard vendors and AMD are working to improve this. If you want the fastest memory, and want it to work, try to purchase only memory listed on the motherboard vendor website as supported.

I still think it'll be a good idea to run two HDDs in RAID1 for maximum data security.

Video card choice is going to be tied to the monitor resolution and game settings. For 2K (2560x1440 or similar) a GTX1080 is plenty enough, if you opt for a 4K display you'll really want to think seriously about moving up to the big GTX1080Ti or be prepared to run the games at lower settings to maintain smooth gameplay on a GTX1080.

The case is always a personal choice, so if you want that massive 750D, go for it, it's a quality part with plenty of cooling/storage options.

If you want a really neat system, go for a full modular power supply, even the little 520Watt Seasonic I used in my Partpicker builds is plenty but you can always have a little MORE POWER, IGOR!!!! HA! HA! HA!...Sorry, carried away there. ;)

Apart from the PSU, the most overlooked part of a full new build is often the monitor, but making a bad choice here can ruin even the best build so have a read here before making any decisions: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/monitor-buying-guide,review-33576.html#p1
 
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that full atx corsair is a good one. but a phanteks enthoo pro is a good one too with some discounts going on now. go for the one u like. both r good.
abt SSD, the capacity is upto u. choose according to ur budget. least recommended capacity is 256gb. that samsung model is a NVMe one, meaning faster than other SSDs. so go with the 960 evo series.
abt the monitor, sry mate. no G sync ones by samsung. u r limited there.
 
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^ BTW have u tried G sync with Nvidia cards? its much better than V sync. i have tried it in my friend's pc and i am cursing my gameplay in my old pc and laptop :(
and thats y i say that its worth it. especially so when u r building a potent rig to give u all the eye candy and fps, what use is it if u arent gonna utilize it properly? better to go for a GTX1060 and a 1080p 60hz monitor then. cash saved ;)
 
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With the option of the 1080Ti now, G-Sync is pretty irrelevant; why pay 150-100 more + for a 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor when that cash can be spent on a 1080 Ti upgrade from a 1080?
With a 1080 Ti you can pretty much max stuff out at above 100FPS at 1440p, and above 60fps at 4k, so G-Sync becomes kind of useless there.
The whole full tower discussion is pretty irrelevant too, unless you're doing enterprise level storage or want the Dark Base 900 case a mid tower will do the same thing while costing less typically and coming in a much smaller size.
 
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okay, so what is the recommended build for an awesome desktop? If an awesome list or build could be recommended to me, I would appreciate it a lot! I do not mid spending extra dollars for something I would love :)
 
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I posted above. 4k is the best option for you given your mixed application.
Return the 960 Pro you bought and get this instead.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($241.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($683.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.98 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($417.74 @ Amazon)
Total: $2232.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-28 03:45 EDT-0400
 
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some ppl really dont know what a difference G sync can make. i played in one and now when i play in my non g sync one, the gameplay looks choppy. g sync makes the gameplay buttery smooth.
i will say it again, when u r paying such a premium for a high end rig, y not utilize that with G sync?
 
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@Lucky_SLS, please read what has been posted above numerous times.
A high color accuracy monitor is necessary for @OP's application, and I HAVE G-Sync, I know exactly what it is like.
Given there's a 1080Ti in the system though, V-Sync will be more than sufficient.
If you can budget in an IPS 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor within the price range while keeping the other specs reasonably well balanced, sure, go for it, but it's not possible unfortunately, that means spending about $300 more on the monitor.
 
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