Opinion on $1100 Build

IsCrEaMTiMe · May 27, 2017

So I created an $1100 White Build and would like some input on it and see if you guys think it will run what I want it to. My goal is to play almost any game on Ultra at 60+ FPS on a 1080p 144hz monitor. Will this do that for me? If not what will it get me? Also would like to just know opinions on whether I could use VR with this. Probably will be purchasing in about a month.
Also Suggestions are extremely welcome. And dont worry about Windows. I just wanna figure out the hardware right now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($300.59 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($113.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY - CS1111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Limited Edition Video Card ($285.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1087.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-27 04:27 EDT-0400

Isokolon · May 27, 2017

why would you want 60fps on a 144Hz monitor??
I'd upgrade to a 1070, with a few (optical) adjustments no problem:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($300.59 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY - CS1111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1109.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-27 04:50 EDT-0400

the 1700 will need some (easy) overclocking at times.
otherwise go for a 1600X

IsCrEaMTiMe · May 27, 2017

Isokolon :

Hmm well I heard somewhere that basically 60hz sucks for gaming so idk lol... And originally I was thinking about going with the ryzen 1600. Would that be fine? That way I can get some of the (optical) stuff back?

RCFProd · May 27, 2017

I'd lower the CPU to the R5 1600 and improve on the graphics more so you'll be at 100+ fps most of the time, which is already incredibly smooth.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.58 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar - X370GT5 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($481.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Yellow) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Corsair)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $1117.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-27 05:04 EDT-0400

Lehan123456789 · May 27, 2017

IsCrEaMTiMe :

Isokolon :

Hmm well I heard somewhere that basically 60hz sucks for gaming so idk lol... And originally I was thinking about going with the ryzen 1600. Would that be fine? That way I can get some of the (optical) stuff back?

Yea, for gaming a Ryzen 5 1600 is still a very capable processor! a 1070 and maybe a 2tb HDD, seeing as they cost only very little more, are the only changes I would make!

Isokolon · May 27, 2017

IsCrEaMTiMe :

there are many people gaming on 60Hz. 144Hz feels smoother but it's only really beneficial in competetive shooters
60Hz means the display can show you 60 different frames per second.
that's why you want to stay above 60fps, so no frame is shows twice, which makes the image feel sluggish
with 144Hz you'd want to match the refreshrate with 144 frames per second.
because of the high refreshrate it doesn't matter as much as with 60Hz to get the target fps, but I'd still would want way over 100

Chugalug_ · May 27, 2017

Unless rendering, a 1600 or 1700 won't see much improvement over a 1500X.
This is especially prevalent in the $1100 price range where a much better GPU can be had as a result.
@OP, get this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $1096.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-27 05:12 EDT-0400

IsCrEaMTiMe · May 27, 2017

Isokolon :

IsCrEaMTiMe :

there are many people gaming on 60Hz. 144Hz feels smoother but it's only really beneficial in competetive shooters
60Hz means the display can show you 60 different frames per second.
that's why you want to stay above 60fps, so no frame is shows twice, which makes the image feel sluggish
with 144Hz you'd want to match the refreshrate with 144 frames per second.
because of the high refreshrate it doesn't matter as much as with 60Hz to get the target fps, but I'd still would want way over 100

Okay, cause I have not bought a monitor yet, so should I go with a 1080p 60hz? or what about 1440p at 60hz?

RCFProd · May 27, 2017

GTX 1070 and above will be decent with 1080/1440p 144Hz.

1080/1440p 75Hz with FreeSync/G-Sync is a nice alternative, you'll be able to sit at max settings more and it'll still feel very smooth.

Chugalug_ · May 27, 2017

The above comment is vastly incorrect, the framerate does not need to be 144fps to be smooth, it can run any varying level in between very well. The difference between that and 60Hz is extremely evident even in single player games; i'd say more so since you can take the time to really look at the image rather than focus on the game all the time.
Get the monitor I added to the list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.89 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1336.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-27 05:23 EDT-0400

Isokolon · May 27, 2017

Chugalug_ :

was this directed towards my statement?
If so, I might have expressed myself inprecisely

I was just stating that with a 144Hz screen you need 144fps if you don't want to see the same frame twice.
depending on the refresh rate and the fps-gap this can feel sluggish and unsmooth. 40fps @60Hz is a pain, 120fps @144Hz is not that noticable.
however it makes little to no sense gaming on a 144Hz screen, if you're only getting 70fps. you should at least get over 100.

RCFProd · May 27, 2017

Anything 90+ FPS is fine on a 144Hz monitor IMO. The GTX 1070 will be decent anyway.

Chugalug_ · May 27, 2017

Isokolon :

If you stick on V-Sync it makes it a lot smoother, and regardless it'll still be better than 60.

Agree on the at least 90FPS thing though, that's where the major difference starts to show.
With a 1070 that shouldn't be an issue.

IsCrEaMTiMe · May 27, 2017

So it sounds like I wanna go with the 1080.. Will that get me good performance if I choose to get some VR games?

Kunra Zether · May 27, 2017

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qKJj9W) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qKJj9W/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mV98TW/amd-ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-processor-yd1600bbaebox) | $218.58 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3wbkcf/msi-b350-tomahawk-arctic-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk-arctic) | $113.88 @ OutletPC
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99cMnQ/corsair-vengeance-led-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-2666-memory-cmu16gx4m2a2666c16) | $126.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [PNY - CS1111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vwPzK8/pny-internal-hard-drive-ssd7cs1111240rb) | $84.97 @ Jet
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $48.33 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB QUICK SILVER OC Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PpmxFT/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-quick-silver-oc-video-card-geforce-gtx-1070-quick-silver-8g-oc) | $379.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vpdqqs/nzxt-case-cas340ww1) | $69.99 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm) | $48.98 @ NCIX US
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1141.71
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| **Total** | **$1091.71**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-05-27 20:39 EDT-0400 |

Kunra Zether · May 27, 2017

Traded out your psu the seasonic is way better and cheaper I have it in my rig. The 1070 msi quick silver is a great card and matches your build beautifully. I lowered your processor so you could get the better GPU and stay under budget plus you don't need the one you picked for gaming at what you want.

Kunra Zether · May 27, 2017

https://youtu.be/nf__ZGD9SUQ

Kunra Zether · May 27, 2017

Btw I play on my Asus GTX 1070 strix at 1440p 60fps ultra settings and also at 1080p 120fps ultra depending on the game with no problems and the 1070 is great for VR gaming. You had some great part choices and I didn't want to change the look you were going for the only thing I didn't like was the psu it's very important to get a good one and icwould never suggest going with a psu under 80+ gold. And seasonic is a trusted brand and we'll reviewed.

Chugalug_ · May 27, 2017

80+ Gold means nothing; it's the quality of the unit that matters.
Saying that though, the Seasonic G is a good deal, so if you can squeeze the PC budget to $1110 @OP, add it to my list.

Kunra Zether · May 27, 2017

Chugalug_ :

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/how-does-psu-efficiency-affect-me-and-do-i-really-need-an-80-plus-gold-power-supply.129456/

Yup means nothing they just put it there for fun... seriously I'm sick of people up here that try and one up other people all the time and did I not say that the seasonic is a very well reviewed brand I mean seriously.

It's all about the efficiency and I prefer the 80+ gold.

Chugalug_ · May 27, 2017

I meant that in the sense that a crap gold PSU doesn't mean it's better than a bronze one necessarily, and I did say that if the budget could be pushed a little the G was a good option.
Isn't an argument, dw!

Isokolon · May 28, 2017

Kunra Zether :

what he means is, efficiency says nothing about the quality of a PSU
you can have a Platinum PSU that is group regulated, doesn't have OVP or OCP and uses 75°C Capxon caps.
efficiency is like the least important thing when it comes to PSUs, especially in the 400-800W department

Lehan123456789 · May 28, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Isokolon :

If you stick on V-Sync it makes it a lot smoother, and regardless it'll still be better than 60.

Agree on the at least 90FPS thing though, that's where the major difference starts to show.
With a 1070 that shouldn't be an issue.

Issue with V-sync is that it induces microstuttering if your graphics card isn't pushing out enough frames. Honestly the microstuttering is a deal breaker for me, I stay as far away from V-Sync as possible!

Chugalug_ · May 28, 2017

Source? Having V-Sync on is a far better experience than no V-Sync at all.
This is a 1080 Ti we're talking about; 60fps at 4k is easily achieved.

CRO5513Y · May 28, 2017

Kunra Zether :

Above builds look good so far.

Just concurring with above PSU statements, the 80+ efficiency rating doesn't make the Power Supply good. For reference there are Tier 4/5 Power Supplies (which is very bad) that are 80+ Gold certified and not just one. If this list was more up to date there would probably be more too. See here > http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

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