Need help with my build, and if I should make changes!

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Here is the build I have! I would like to know if there is any need for some changes? As well, could I save money on certain components that will work just the same or is it good as is?

Here it is:

SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

Samsung 512GB 960 PRO M.2 Internal SSD

Corsair Graphite Series 760T Black Full Tower Windowed Case

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2400C15D-32GVR

MSI B350 GAMING PLUS AM4 AMD B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 8GB ROG STRIX OC Edition Graphic Card STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING

AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6 GHz Eight-Core AM4 Processor\

Did I overspend? I as well still do not have the monitor?

Appreciate all input!
 

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Mostly for the programming I do and will be for some core gaming. I am straying away Xbox/PS4. Find the PC games have much more options. I would like it to be able to handle any data bases I make, programs, 3D and so forth.

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Do not believe I will do much or any of it, but would like the ability to do so with no issues.
 

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Wow, thanks for informing me. Would this 1 suffice :
MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM Amd Ryzen X370 Ddr4 Vr Ready Hdmi Usb 3 Atx Gaming Motherboard?
 

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I too am an Asus fan lol, but this is my first desktop build! Any recommendations? Should it be a certain one?
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It is fine if it is pricey, as long as it will be worth it! Is the SeaSonic G series a good choice as well?
 

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I just noticed that photo, that set up looks Beast!
 

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one more question, if I do not intend on overclocking, will the current board be fine or should I upgrade it a bit?

Thank you
 
the beast says "thank you" :)
I'll make it long:
1. the PSU is fine. I'd personally go with either Corsair's RM650x or EVGA SuperNova G3 650w (whichever cheaper) simply because they are excellent PSUs with 10 years of warranty. The 650w is simply to have the PSU fan almost always at 0 RPM.
2. if you don't overclock, the B350 is fine. BUT - if you trying to build a gaming rig, even i5 is doing better. not to mention that for the price of your CPU and decent MB, you can get a 7700K + very nice Z270 MB. The ryzen thing is good for workstations with heavily multi-threaded load. It is mediocre when it comes to gaming. If you overclock, it becomes decent for gaming. Though it's still anemic when it comes to 144Hz gaming. For now, only i7 can properly support it.
3. It's actually 2.5, but it's a bit a subject on it's own. ryzen performance is HUGELY affected by RAM speed due to data fabric working on RAM speed. So to get the most of ryzen, you need 3000+ MHz DDR4 kit. in order for it to work on such speed, it has to be single rank and with samsung chips. they are not cheap.
without knowing the purpose of this build, i can't say much more.
 

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Very informational and let me break down my situation for you:

1. I am in the IT field; I do programming, coding, creating huge HTML data bases and will want to begin to play hard core games on here. I will not longer be using a Xbox or PS4, but would like to be able to game if I want.

2. I just recently purchased a ASUS GL502VS-WS71:
Specs:
2TB SSHD Seagate FireCuda Gaming Hybrid Drive (SATA - 6Gb/s)
Built-in Dual Band Wireless-AC 802.11 AC/A/B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth 4.1
2d2x8gb2400 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory - Default
512GB Western Digital Black NVMe SSD (Read 2050MB/s - Write 800MB/s)
Stock Thermal Compound
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 (8GB) GDDR5 (Pascal) DX12
7th Generation Intel® Kaby Lake™ i7-7700HQ (2.8GHz - 3.8GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache) Processor 1
15.6" FHD (16:9) Matte Type (1920x1080) w/ G-Sync

3. I do not need a powerful laptop like this for work, since I have a company one. I believe I have buyers remorse here paid $2136 for this laptop. I now would just prefer to build an AWESOME desktop at home, since I would game here and at times runs programs. So if you can recommend something, that would be awesome. As just recently purchased many of these parts and I do still have time to cancel or return them.

That is my dilemma. I would prefer to spend it on a desktop and have an even better setup. If you can recommend a a few builds that would be awesome!!! :bounce::bounce: I have hardware experience, but not enough about gaming components to make a great build.
 
well, I'm in IT field as well. SW development.
though I rarely do hardcore codding, I do a lot of scripting, databases, BI and other things.
I was surprised that a dual core i7 in macbook pro 13" would be able to be my workhorse (corporate device) and replace conventional workstation. A superfast SSD with great IOPS does the trick unless you running a build server on your machine. So for normal IT work, 4/8 cores/threads are more than enough.
I'm also Linux nerd, so my OS of choice is Gentoo. It compiles most of the packages as part of installation - so I do find the many cores useful as compilation can be very parallel. In Ideal world, my gaming rig (the Beast that I call Frostbite) would be also my everything else (have a laptop for that). Unfortunately, my CPU does not support VT-d which allows direct HW passthrough. If it had, I'd be running the Gentoo as base OS and a windows VM with dedicated GPU for gaming. Currently, Ryzen does the iommu very poorly due to weird group assignment. It's a first no go for me. Second one is the lack of integrated GPU. It has to be 2 GPUs to run VM with dedicated GPU. And I see no reason to have two dedicated GPUs (also my "less is more" religion dictates mini ITX) when only one is actually used.
So for myself, if I had to do it today, I'd get an i7-7700K based build with GTX 1080 or 1080Ti and 32GB of RAM + 3440x1440p@100Hz monitor.
In ideal world, there would be a 6-8 core CPU @4.5-5.0GHz with integrated GPU on mini ITX MB with at lest 64GB RAM + very compact (AMD's nano style) GPU with the performance of at least GTX 1080Ti + 3440x1440p@144Hz IPS monitor.
Since I do not need to build today, I wait for what I want. Well, except the monitor. Couldn't live longer with 24" 1920x1200 monitor :)
So it comes down to following questions:
1. What are your preferences and their priority? big or compact, shinny or functional, quiet or don't care, air or liquid, gaming or productivity etc.
2. An approximate budget for this fun.
3. Your target resolution and refresh rate - i strongly recommend 1440p@144Hz or an ultrawide with 100Hz. BTW, HDMI 2.1 was recently approved, it can do 3440x1440 at 144Hz or 4K at 120 and has all kinds of HDR and more interesting built in VR (variable refresh rate) which will replace the G-Sync and FreeSync - yay !!! monitors with HDMI 2.1 will start to appear very soon I guess. Guess both AMD and Nvidia will include HDMI2.1 in their Vega Volta - they usually do support new standards very quickly.
4. Do you have/want to buy it now ? intel is announcing it's next high end consumer platform any day. both AMD and Nvidia to present their real next gen cards (Vega and Volta) very soon. that's not happening very often. I'd wait till announcements to decide if i want to wait more or not.
 

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That is awesome man! I am positive I have more than enough power with a LenovoT460 from work lol. As for myself, I always just like to have that extra kick in case I need it.

1. I can wait honestly on my build. I just wanted to get some of the parts together already. I would like it to look nice and shinny and be very productive. I am would prefer it to be quiet, not too loud. The size is not a big deal, I purchased the
Corsair Graphite Series 760T Black Full Tower Windowed Case.

2. Not Including the monitor, I would say $1800 would be the most, as I just purchased that Asus lol(will maybe return it) But it can go over a couple hundred if it would make a big difference.

3. I will stick to this 1440p@144Hz or an ultrawide with 100Hz, as I was told similar by a friend and others here on the forum. Been looking at monitors, but I can wait.

4. I am willing to wait, it is not a huge rush, because I did read this in PC Mag lol.

From the list of parts I have, which ones should I keep, return or spend a few more dollars to upgrade? As far as the other parts go, I am willing to wait .

Appreciate the help, have not been in the PC gaming world in a while and a lot of stuff has changed lol
 
Frankly, I'd keep only the SSD :)
well, no, I'd take the 1TB version to make sure all my crap fits. though i'm under 300GB for windows with OS, programs and games. but I have my FLAC collection on NAS.
The case is nice, but it's tempered glass era. acrylic windows are so scratchy. and really 5.25" bays in 2017 ?
for the 1800-2000$ budget:

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($247.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($709.99 @ Jet)
Case: be quiet! - Dark Base Pro 900 (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2017.19

Alternatively, same as above just with GTX 1080 and i7-6800K + X99 MB - about the same price.

I have not included CPU cooler, it's 50-80$ for air. or 150 for liquid CPU or 350-600 for a liquid CPU+GPU.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
grab this PSU today, it usually goes for 100+ :)
 

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okay! Awesome man. This looks like a really solid build. Glad you were able to fully help me before I started opening stuff and what not haha. Is a liquid CPU worth the $$? Sounds good, I was looking at that PSU lol. Will grab most of this today and just return the other stuff.

GREATLY appreciate the help! I need to brush up on my gaming hardware.
 
Haven't we discussed the "wait" thing ? a week or so for the AMD to announce Vega, for Nvidia with Volta, for Intel with i9 ?
BTW, some of the parts were color matched - like the MB and RAM. you can change the ram to black if you want - same everything just the color.
Also, the case is with orange accent - i like it, but there is also a black/silver version.

Also, this build is completely without any lighting. you are free to play with it :)

the liquid is a nice to have. it allows you comfortably overclock the CPU to the sky and yet not worry about the temperatures.
It's also cool looking with RGB and tubes.
this one I had in mind for CPU http://www.swiftech.com/h240x2.aspx
there is also a 320 version which i'd recommend if you thinking about adding the GPU as well. to add GPU, you will need a GPU block + backplate and another 240 rad + couple of fittings - under 250 in total.
Building a loop like mine, will be in 500-800$ range depending on the components you pick. there is very cool staff if you are brave enough. But that's more of a hobby, than practicality.

Practically - this should be more than sufficient - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9bFPxr/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019
As a side note, I prefer the Noctua NH-D15, but not everyone agrees with the fan's color.
 

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okay awesome! Yes, I will wait for the Vega and Volta to be announced and see how that is lol. I meant I would pick up the other items at least for now. Would hate to miss out on it. Yes, black and Silver I was thinking for the case. The Swifttech cooling looks awesome. I would like my system to emit bright red. So aside from all else, I would just need to wait for the verdict on the graphics card.

Appreciate all this extra help. I would have hated to make a bad build lol