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cameronmc88

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Currently setup I'm using is:
i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz
8GB 1600mhz DDR3
500gb SSD
GTX 1060 OC
1080p 60hz Monitor @80hz OC

Main game I play is BF1 and at 1080p.. it runs around 70-90 FPS on Ultra currently on 64p
Conquest.

I have a $1000 budget coming up at tax time here in AUS so that's $1000 AUD and anyway for BF1 I need help deciding the best way to spend it.

1) 16GB of DDR3 Ram (1866mhz CL9 or better) + 144hz Gsync monitor and just lower graphics to med/high for 100+ fps to feel the beauty of Gsync and high refresh.

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2) i7 7700k + new mobo and DDR4 ram.

I know the second option will be better in the long run, just feel the extra 8GB ram will help with my stutter in BF1 since with 8gb (currently using) I think it uses pagefile sometimes and get slight stutter.. and gsync is god like my friend tells me.

Also I'm guessing the 7700k upgrade would boost my overall FPS by 20+ or so on BF1 since MP is CPU heavy, but like.. I won't notice it since I'll be stuck on 80hz anyway?

Let me know what you guys think,
Cheers.
 
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then get the ryzen 5 1600x instead for more ghz and feed it with high mhz DDR, there u have it :D hope u have a fine time in gaming with ur new gaming rig later :D
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get the 2. choice
here's the reason why:
1. future proofing
2. later on, u only need to upgrade your monitor so that your new cpu can show u it's true power :D
3. the mhz on new ram is much better and will yield better performance in the future
4. 8 GB is plenty enough for most game right now (except on texture heavy games like modded skyrim, modded fallout 4, etc)
5. the new cpu gives better multithread performance (obviously lol :) ) so it will give u extra benefit on multitasking ( like opening 20 tab browser while playing BF 1 perhaps :v )
 
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cameronmc88

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Yeah I've been thinking towards the new build a lot, but truth is man no other apps/programs open and just BF1 is using 7GB of physical ram.. and Windows 10 64-bit nothing open uses 1.6GB so it's defs going over my 8GB ram and using Virtual/Pagefile. My buddy has similar system and doesn't get the stutter because he has 16gb.
 
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cameronmc88

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Also forgot to mention something..

If I go with option 1 and just upgrade ram/monitor for now, that's just going to be a temp upgrade.. around Q1 2018 or whenever the 8800k i7 is out I'll be building a whole new rig anyway.. so yeah option 1 = Temp solution for the next 3-6 months or so.
 
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if u want to upgrade them all, i rather wait for i9 instead :D
 
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New things always cost a bomb dude :( even in my country, RX 580 is way pricier than expected 480 even though it had lower MSRP
 
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cameronmc88

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Well they got bundles atm here in Australia, i7 7700k, 16GB 3000mhz DDR4 and a Z270 motherboard for $900ish.
Or I spend $600 on Gsync 144hz Monitor + $130 for 16GB 1866mhz DDR3 kit. (couple $100 cheaper)

Such a tough decision haha

I mean could I possibly get by till Christmas with my i5 with the extra ram to fix my stutter and the beautiful Gsync display to eliminate tearing and smooth out my gameplay? Any gsync users here care to chine in.. it was my understanding Gsync makes anything 30+FPS look smooth as butter.
 
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well if u saying that u gonna get a new rig anyway, don't upgrade anything on your rig right now (well if u say BF 1 need more, just add 1x4 ram instead of buying 2x4), just get the g sync with high refresh rate (144 would be nice) and enjoy your games. im suggesting u to buy 7700k because first, since it's pretty recent, it should last you 2-3 years, and second, newly launched product are always pricy (especially outside US). but this is your rig and it's your decision, all of us in tomshardware can only give u suggestion but the decision is up to you :D
 
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cameronmc88

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Yeah I agree, thanks for the advice.. I'm literally just looking for the best possibly experience of BF1 for the time being.. next 6 months or so while I save for my new PC.

I just wondered if the i7 7700k + current 60hz monitor would be an overall smoother/better experience than a Gsync 144hz + 16gb ram upgrade to my current CPU/Setup. (I hate screen tearing/stuttering)
Btw my current i5 is @ 4.5ghz its not stock.
 
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well even if i7 is smoother u won't feel the difference since you're using 60 hz monitor, a gsync on the otherhand should be able to give you smoother experience because of its high refresh rate :D

 
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cameronmc88

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See I was thinking exactly what you just said.. plus I hate tearing and without vsync my current setup tears so bad.. so I think gsync would be a godsend since no input lag. (Vsync gives me input lag so I don't use it).

Just scared If I don't upgrade the CPU/Ram/Mobo and just use the current setup with the extra ram the stutter might remain, like what If it's not the fact I have only 8GB but my CPU is just exactly a dud or too old and that's the reason.. so much "What If" hurts my brain.. god damn OCD :(
 
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You think the 144hz/gsync is a waste of money? I did state I HATE tearing and my current setup has bad tearing, also I'm not upgrading GPU I can easily handle Medium/High mix at 100+ FPS which is what I want high FPS with a new 144hz display, but If you think the i7 will overall provide me with the best/smoothest solution possibly with the SAME GPU.. then so be it.

The two differences:

i7 7700k - 60Hz 1080p Monitor
vs
i5 3570k @4.5ghz - 144hz 1080p GSync Monitor

Doesn't matter if I can draw an extra 50 FPS with the i7.. I wont see it on the 60hz.. lol
So if I can just lower my graphics and get 100+ with the i5..and the 144hz monitor wouldn't that be a better experience for what I'm looking for?
 
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I think 1080p G-Sync is a waste of money, at 1440p provided you have a 1080 it's a good use.
If one was planning a build with a 1070 and G-Sync monitor that difference could be spent on an upgrade to a 1080 as an example, hence why I'm saying it's a waste.
At 1080p with a 1060 it is completely unjustified, you won't use it at all since the 1060 you have will push 60fps all the time anyway.
Wait for the 7740k and x299 boards coming out next month. :)
At 60Hz an i7'd do you much better imo, it'll really let you push those settings up, AAA titles are very CPU intensive nowadays.
Get a 144hz 1440p monitor with your next GPU upgrade, or alternatively get an i7 3770 used and a regular 1080p 144hz monitor, that's the best of both choices.
 
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Yeah I know what you mean, but right this moment I'm only doing one thing.. either upgrading my build from the i5 3570k (4.5ghz) to the i7 7700k/7740k or just upgrading the ram to 16GB and my monitor to 1080p 144hz Gsync, as stated my GTX 1060 can already push 100+ FPS on BF1 with lowering some settings and I've tried my buddies 144hz monitor it feels 10x better than my 60hz lol
 
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My budget is listed at the top $1000 AUD, I can get i7700k, 16GB 3000mhz DDR4 and a Asus Z270 strix for $900 or I can get the Gsync 144hz 1080p monitor + 16GB DDR 1866mhz CL9 ram upgrade for $750ish.

I play Gears of War 4 (Which runs flawless btw) 100+ FPS maxed out, Battlefield 1 (70-90 FPS atm on Ultra) but if I lower it to high/med I get 100+ which I could feel with the 144hz monitor I'd actually get a good experience, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds.. but yeah mainly shooters.

If I don't get the i7 system upgrade now, I will be next year or Christmas time anyway.

So right now either the i7 system upgrade or the ram+Monitor upgrade is my temp solution till Christmas.
The reason I opt for Gsync is yes rip off, but my buddy has a 144hz gsync and holy shit... I kid you not the tearing is gone and my screen/setup it has bad tearing, I know you can put on VSync but then I feel mouse input lag.
 
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oh yeah right sorry forgot you posted that earlier, mb.
Difference to a G-Sync monitor is $175, not worth it.
Good for you, you can get both. :)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($415.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.00 @ IJK)
Monitor: Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($379.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $932.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-30 16:55 AEST+1000
 
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cameronmc88

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I know that's another option budgeting, but I already have a CPU cooler compatible with the i7 7700k, and If I was going to go the i7 Upgrade route, I'd be getting a $250+ mobo etc and at least 16GB of DDR4 3000mhz+ ram. Not skimping if going that route.
 
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Well yeah g-sync is technically a rip-off, especially if u consider amd's freesync price.
U don't have to get it of course, use the normal monitor instead, also if you're going to OC that i7, get the z270 mobo
But then again, u can save all that money just by reducing the settings instead of upgrading, and then, next Christmas u'll have double budget to buy some new-gen stuff
 
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That's silly...
An i7 7700 is fantastic value here, just slap the cooler on and you're set.
That setup is perfectly fine, k series CPUs don't actually add that much performance.
If you get a good OC at most it's 4.8GHz vs the 4.2 turbo of the 7700 for a far lower price, and you also get 144hz.
Nothing to complain about.
 
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