New system Build, what do you reckon?

tonymarcus · May 30, 2017

Hello Guys,

I’ve Just completed my first build for 9 years, I’ve overclocked it using the Gigabyte motherboard easy overclocking feature in the BIOS and it’s running at 4.8Ghz, 5Ghz gave errors in Prime95 so for the time being I’m happy with 4.8Ghz, maybe in the future I’ll research the subject properly and manually overclock it to hit the golden 5Ghz.

My temps are around 40 degrees c at idle and around 90 degrees using Prime 95 overnight, I really wanted a quiet system over a mega overclocked system so I’ve compromised and during normal PC use it is very quiet and when the system is pushed the fans rise up and when Prime 95 is running there all running at full speed which is fine.

I have a few questions and would be grateful for some opinions: -

1. Intel Speed Shift Technology is disabled by default of my Gigabyte Z270x MB, should I enable it, I’ve read up about it and it gives a speed boost when the clock jumps up and down

2. In the power options I use the maximum performance as it stops the power saving features operating (is this correct) as I read it can cause problems with overclocked systems, would you recommend I leave it on max or choose balanced, when balanced the system does down clock and my idle temps are 4-5 degree’s lower. I don’t really notice any performance hit using balanced. In the real world am I likely to notice the delay from the system being clocked at 800Mhz jumping to 4.8Ghz, I’d welcome opinions on what people would recommend. I don’t really do anything on the PC to push it apart from the occasion gaming, overclocking for me is probably about pride and bragging rights. Am I right in saying maximum performance setting disables all power saving features?

3. There doesn’t seem to be any difference between Normal, fast and ultra fast boot, are there any other Gigabyte MB owners that this happens to

4. I don’t normally use hibernate or sleep as my old system would quite often not wake up, I’ve tried it on this system and when I select sleep the system shuts off (case fans stop) and when I use the mouse it comes back to life. When I last used sleep on my old system the fans would stay on unless the PC was hibernated. I tried to hibernate this PC and all the case fans stayed on and it wouldn’t wake up and I had to hit the reset switch. Is it normal for everything to shut off when sleep mode is selected, I’m sure there the wrong way round?

5. The Gigabyte Fusion app won’t connect to PC, the app can see my system but won’t connect, anyone getting any joy with it?

6. Lastly, I like to say how rubbish (I’d like to use stronger words but will get banned) the new Windows 10 is at so called backing up system settings to one drive, up to Windows 7 we had Easy Transfer Wizard which was brilliant, when I installed Windows 10 on the same account as my old installed every setting was lost except my Internet Explorer favourite’s which did return. I’ve spent about 2 days trying to get all my little settings and tweaks, email and other settings back. I lost all my Windows metro apps which I thought would have reinstalled like they do with Apple products, I love Windows 10 but they should do more with automatically restoring settings etc. I nearly lost 10 years’ worth of email because Windows mail is no more and all the backing up I did with it would not work with Outlook 2016!!
Thanks for reading

Tony

CPU - Intel Core i7 7700k 4.2GHz Kaby Lake Overclocked to 4.8Ghz
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-U14S - NH-U14S Ultra-Quiet Slim CPU Cooler with NF-A15 Fan
Motherboard - Gigabyte Aorus Z270x Gaming K5
Ram - 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz DDR4
Video Card - Gigabyte GTX 1060 G1 Gaming 6GB
Main Hard Drive SSD - Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2 PCI-E NVME SSD
Document Hard drive SSD - Samsung 840 PRO PCI-E 512GB (reused from old system 3 years old)
Data and Back up Hard drives - Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200rpm ST3000DM008 x 2
PSU - Corsair HX750i 750w (about 2 years old)
Case - Corsair 460X RGB Crystal Tempered Glass Gaming Case
Additional Case Fan - Corsair SP120 RGB 120mm fan.

tonymarcus · Jun 2, 2017

g-unit1111 · Jun 2, 2017

1. Intel Speed Shift Technology is disabled by default of my Gigabyte Z270x MB, should I enable it, I’ve read up about it and it gives a speed boost when the clock jumps up and down

That doesn't really do anything - it's not a substitute for a full overclock and enabling of XMP (extreme memory profile), doing those two things will alone give your system a boost in performance.

2. In the power options I use the maximum performance as it stops the power saving features operating (is this correct) as I read it can cause problems with overclocked systems, would you recommend I leave it on max or choose balanced, when balanced the system does down clock and my idle temps are 4-5 degree’s lower. I don’t really notice any performance hit using balanced. In the real world am I likely to notice the delay from the system being clocked at 800Mhz jumping to 4.8Ghz, I’d welcome opinions on what people would recommend. I don’t really do anything on the PC to push it apart from the occasion gaming, overclocking for me is probably about pride and bragging rights. Am I right in saying maximum performance setting disables all power saving features?

Turn off all power saving options on a desktop as you don't need them. As for interfering with overclocked systems, I have yet to see it. Some power supplies were finicky with some Intel platforms including Haswell and Skylake, but you have a top of the line 750i, so that shouldn't be a problem. And it's since been corrected on Kaby Lake.

3. There doesn’t seem to be any difference between Normal, fast and ultra fast boot, are there any other Gigabyte MB owners that this happens to

There really isn't, and I wouldn't worry about it. Especially when you have an M2 drive already to begin with as your primary boot drive, enabling or disabling any of these features won't make any difference in boot times.

4. I don’t normally use hibernate or sleep as my old system would quite often not wake up, I’ve tried it on this system and when I select sleep the system shuts off (case fans stop) and when I use the mouse it comes back to life. When I last used sleep on my old system the fans would stay on unless the PC was hibernated. I tried to hibernate this PC and all the case fans stayed on and it wouldn’t wake up and I had to hit the reset switch. Is it normal for everything to shut off when sleep mode is selected, I’m sure there the wrong way round?

Yes that's what sleep mode does. I personally wouldn't use sleep mode, I would just turn the system off when you're not using it, it will reduce long term wear on the PSU that way.

5. The Gigabyte Fusion app won’t connect to PC, the app can see my system but won’t connect, anyone getting any joy with it?

I don't know, I have a current model Gigabyte motherboard, but I am not familiar with that application. I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless it's preventing proper functionality of the motherboard.

6. Lastly, I like to say how rubbish (I’d like to use stronger words but will get banned) the new Windows 10 is at so called backing up system settings to one drive, up to Windows 7 we had Easy Transfer Wizard which was brilliant, when I installed Windows 10 on the same account as my old installed every setting was lost except my Internet Explorer favourite’s which did return. I’ve spent about 2 days trying to get all my little settings and tweaks, email and other settings back. I lost all my Windows metro apps which I thought would have reinstalled like they do with Apple products, I love Windows 10 but they should do more with automatically restoring settings etc. I nearly lost 10 years’ worth of email because Windows mail is no more and all the backing up I did with it would not work with Outlook 2016!!

One Drive is a load of, you know what. It's a feature I wish you could disable on Windows 10. Anything is more reliable for backups than One Drive is. I use an external Samsung SSD for my backups and I think it's a million times better than One Drive.

tonymarcus · Jun 2, 2017

Thanks for your answer,

I've enabled Speedshift now as my system runs a little quieter while browsing the web etc, it'll soon jump back to 4.8Gz when it needs to and I guess that will take Nano seconds and in real life terms as a user I'm not going to notice this, maybe benchmarks will be slightly lower. I've already enabled XMP so my memory is running at the correct speed.

Thanks for your advise about fast boot, I did some reading and some people were saying with it enabled their systems booted so fast they couldn't access the BIOS, I'll turn it back to normal and forget about it.

I normally just leave my system on and turn it off when I go to bed, I don't like having my hard drives turning on and off all the time as I don't think it does them any good over time, I expect this theory is out of date with modern drives now. I just thought hibernate would be handy if I was going out but like you say my system boots to windows in 22 seconds so it's almost as quick.

The App is just a gimmick really, would have been nice if it worked but I'm not too fussed.

Thanks again

Tony

g-unit1111 :

1. Intel Speed Shift Technology is disabled by default of my Gigabyte Z270x MB, should I enable it, I’ve read up about it and it gives a speed boost when the clock jumps up and down

That doesn't really do anything - it's not a substitute for a full overclock and enabling of XMP (extreme memory profile), doing those two things will alone give your system a boost in performance.

2. In the power options I use the maximum performance as it stops the power saving features operating (is this correct) as I read it can cause problems with overclocked systems, would you recommend I leave it on max or choose balanced, when balanced the system does down clock and my idle temps are 4-5 degree’s lower. I don’t really notice any performance hit using balanced. In the real world am I likely to notice the delay from the system being clocked at 800Mhz jumping to 4.8Ghz, I’d welcome opinions on what people would recommend. I don’t really do anything on the PC to push it apart from the occasion gaming, overclocking for me is probably about pride and bragging rights. Am I right in saying maximum performance setting disables all power saving features?

Turn off all power saving options on a desktop as you don't need them. As for interfering with overclocked systems, I have yet to see it. Some power supplies were finicky with some Intel platforms including Haswell and Skylake, but you have a top of the line 750i, so that shouldn't be a problem. And it's since been corrected on Kaby Lake.

3. There doesn’t seem to be any difference between Normal, fast and ultra fast boot, are there any other Gigabyte MB owners that this happens to

There really isn't, and I wouldn't worry about it. Especially when you have an M2 drive already to begin with as your primary boot drive, enabling or disabling any of these features won't make any difference in boot times.

4. I don’t normally use hibernate or sleep as my old system would quite often not wake up, I’ve tried it on this system and when I select sleep the system shuts off (case fans stop) and when I use the mouse it comes back to life. When I last used sleep on my old system the fans would stay on unless the PC was hibernated. I tried to hibernate this PC and all the case fans stayed on and it wouldn’t wake up and I had to hit the reset switch. Is it normal for everything to shut off when sleep mode is selected, I’m sure there the wrong way round?

Yes that's what sleep mode does. I personally wouldn't use sleep mode, I would just turn the system off when you're not using it, it will reduce long term wear on the PSU that way.

5. The Gigabyte Fusion app won’t connect to PC, the app can see my system but won’t connect, anyone getting any joy with it?

I don't know, I have a current model Gigabyte motherboard, but I am not familiar with that application. I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless it's preventing proper functionality of the motherboard.

6. Lastly, I like to say how rubbish (I’d like to use stronger words but will get banned) the new Windows 10 is at so called backing up system settings to one drive, up to Windows 7 we had Easy Transfer Wizard which was brilliant, when I installed Windows 10 on the same account as my old installed every setting was lost except my Internet Explorer favourite’s which did return. I’ve spent about 2 days trying to get all my little settings and tweaks, email and other settings back. I lost all my Windows metro apps which I thought would have reinstalled like they do with Apple products, I love Windows 10 but they should do more with automatically restoring settings etc. I nearly lost 10 years’ worth of email because Windows mail is no more and all the backing up I did with it would not work with Outlook 2016!!

One Drive is a load of, you know what. It's a feature I wish you could disable on Windows 10. Anything is more reliable for backups than One Drive is. I use an external Samsung SSD for my backups and I think it's a million times better than One Drive.

g-unit1111 · Jun 2, 2017

I've enabled Speedshift now as my system runs a little quieter while browsing the web etc, it'll soon jump back to 4.8Gz when it needs to and I guess that will take Nano seconds and in real life terms as a user I'm not going to notice this, maybe benchmarks will be slightly lower. I've already enabled XMP so my memory is running at the correct speed.

Speedshift still isn't really a substitute for a full overclock. Neither is enabling turbo boost - that just differentiates CPU speeds when on full load vs being on idle. If you want a stable high speed, you have to do a full overclock.

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