Final Build Improvements?

David_166 · May 30, 2017

So I'm considered getting the ryzen 7 1700 instead of the I7 7700K mainly because of the temperature differences and prices of the motherboards. I'm guessing the power supply that I've got in my older machine (The 550W PSU) will probably be the biggest suggestion but I really don't know if its worth investing £60 - £100 for a new power supply.

Anyway I've got around £130 left I can possibly spend and I'm wondering what I should change/improve in this final build?
Build: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/s3NPWX
Please Note*
I cannot change the following since I've already purchased them:

MSI GAMING X 1080
BeQuiet Silent Loop
SSD + HDD
NZXT S340 Case

Thank you in advanced

Computers Taste Like Metal · May 30, 2017

I'm not saying that PSU is bad, but it seems fairly new and doesn't have reviews yet. Plus, with that system, 550 watts might be just cutting it. I'd get a 600+ Watt EVGA Supernova. Very, very nice PSU series, and more wattage will give you room to upgrade.

What OS will you be using?

also
The be quiet! - Silent Loop 120 65.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard.

Karadjgne · May 30, 2017

I'd swap the Corsair ram for g-skill Trident-Z (new ones, not older stock) or g-skill RipJaws V. They have less compatability issues with Ryzen at higher than 2933MHz speeds. Many of the SkHynix ic's aren't getting over 2133MHz, 2400 if you are lucky.
That FSP Raider 550w isn't something I'd want powering a £1200 pc, it's so mediocre it's lost on obscurity. It's also quite an old design that's had a few tweaks just to bring it upto Silver efficiency from its normal Bronze.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
Much more solid for that build.

Almost all aftermarket cpu coolers will require an additional mount for AM4 mobo's as it's slightly different than the standard amd mount that fits just about everything else. Bit that's only for older stock or stuff that was packaged before AM4 released. Newer stuff built after AM4 release will include the AM4 bracket, which is why pcp gives the warning. It's just a transition time. In the near future the warning won't be needed as all coolers will have the bracket. It's not an issue as such. Just contact the cooler manufacturer, if you have proof of purchase they should ship one for free. Usually.

David_166 · May 30, 2017

Computers Taste Like Metal :

Hi there, I'll be using windows 10 and I've already ordered an am4 mounting bracket from BeQuiet's site

David_166 · May 30, 2017

Karadjgne :

I'd swap the Corsair ram for g-skill Trident-Z (new ones, not older stock) or g-skill RipJaws V. They have less compatability issues with Ryzen at higher than 2933MHz speeds. Many of the SkHynix ic's aren't getting over 2133MHz, 2400 if you are lucky.
That FSP Raider 550w isn't something I'd want powering a £1200 pc, it's so mediocre it's lost on obscurity. It's also quite an old design that's had a few tweaks just to bring it upto Silver efficiency from its normal Bronze.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
Much more solid for that build.

Almost all aftermarket cpu coolers will require an additional mount for AM4 mobo's as it's slightly different than the standard amd mount that fits just about everything else. Bit that's only for older stock or stuff that was packaged before AM4 released. Newer stuff built after AM4 release will include the AM4 bracket, which is why pcp gives the warning. It's just a transition time. In the near future the warning won't be needed as all coolers will have the bracket. It's not an issue as such. Just contact the cooler manufacturer, if you have proof of purchase they should ship one for free. Usually.

Would 2400Mhz Gskill Ripjaws V be good enough?

Karadjgne · May 30, 2017

It's a Ryzen. Infinity fabric (AMD's new version of hyperthreading) can and does make very good use of high speed ram, unlike Intel, offering upto @20% performance increase with 3200 vrs 2133, which is huge in comparison to older generation HT. But that might also require some tweaking as the Ryzen are not only brand new designs, but so is IF and it's yet not fully compatible with every rams controller. SkHynix are having the most issues, (Corsair lpx, g-skill Z's 16CL and RJ 4) Samsung B-die (G-skill Z's 14CL and RJ V) the least. Micron seems to be hit or miss.
That said, none of the ram at any speed potential seems to have an issue with the stock 2133MHz, and Amd and it's partners are working crazy to get microcoded fixes, Gigabyte already has announced something like 20 that'll be shortly released. And you can bet it's not going to be long before Amd gets its act together. So it's a question of pay a little more now for the RGB (either the Tridents or Corsair) you want, that'll still work at 2133 minimum with a probability of complete compatability in the near future and a 20% free bonus performance boost or spend almost as much and still end up with about the same performance as you started with after the fixes are released.

David_166 · May 30, 2017

Karadjgne :

It's a Ryzen. Infinity fabric (AMD's new version of hyperthreading) can and does make very good use of high speed ram, unlike Intel, offering upto @20% performance increase with 3200 vrs 2133, which is huge in comparison to older generation HT. But that might also require some tweaking as the Ryzen are not only brand new designs, but so is IF and it's yet not fully compatible with every rams controller. SkHynix are having the most issues, (Corsair lpx, g-skill Z's 16CL and RJ 4) Samsung B-die (G-skill Z's 14CL and RJ V) the least. Micron seems to be hit or miss.
That said, none of the ram at any speed potential seems to have an issue with the stock 2133MHz, and Amd and it's partners are working crazy to get microcoded fixes, Gigabyte already has announced something like 20 that'll be shortly released. And you can bet it's not going to be long before Amd gets its act together. So it's a question of pay a little more now for the RGB (either the Tridents or Corsair) you want, that'll still work at 2133 minimum with a probability of complete compatability in the near future and a 20% free bonus performance boost or spend almost as much and still end up with about the same performance as you started with after the fixes are released.

I really appreciate the detailed answer. Thank you very much you've helped me majorly

Karadjgne · May 30, 2017

No worries, good luck with the build. Once it up and running, maybe drop a picture or 2 in the members gallery. Right now it's basically all Intel, so some Ryzens for comparison would be great.

Cheers.

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