New case for AIO liquid cooler build

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Hi all
Looking ahead to a later summer Ryzen/Vega build, and I would like to be able to use up to a 360 mm AIO for the cpu, and be able to fit a 120 GPU rad if there is a version of Vega that comes that way. Undecided about exactly how big of rad(s) I will buy, so having the option for bigger ones seems like a good idea.

Looking at this one right now.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811854003

Phanteks Enthoo Pro Series PH-ES614P_BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Space is not an issue for me, and since my 912 HAF has nowhere near the room to mount AIO set ups, this seems like a solid option, well reviewed.

The Newegg link is to Newegg.ca, purchasing from Canada, so exchange rate is a thing.
This case is actually on sale for the next 3 days.....
Any readers familiar with this or similar Phanteks products, and can give me an idea whether this would be a smart buy? Pricing seems great for the room and feature set.

It is $125 CDN right now. All the other ones I looked at were $200 plus.


 
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A very nice looking case, and a good reason to buy it regardless.
It has plenty of front intake air capability with the supplied 200mm fan.
That will be quiet, and since all the intake air is filtered, your parts will stay cooler.

However, instead of spending big bucks on cpu and gpu cooling which is not particularly effective, I suggest you spend that part of your budget on faster parts in the first place.

I suggest you buy a high end air cooler for the cpu which will cost you less, be quieter, keep your case cleaner, be more reliable, and will not leak.
Here is a recent review of 4 good ones:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11407/140-mm-slim-tower-cpu-cooler-roundup

FWIW here is my canned opinion on AIO coolers:
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.
 
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Thanks for that answer. I am keeping my options open, thus looking at cases that I CAN liquid cool, even if I don't actually do it.
So the one I am looking at here seems like good value for the money.
Since I am not in a hurry on the build, I will be reading many reviews and benchmarks.


 
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