what will happen if i BIOS flash my GTX 980Ti to a normal reference EVGA Titan X (M)?

MaxTehLegend · May 31, 2017

what would happen if i were to flash my GTX 980Ti's bios to a Titan X? will the difference just be it will drop the voltage, boost, and clockspeeds as a reference Titan X? and will it change how software sees my 980Ti? would it be seen as a titan X?

dark_lord69 · May 31, 2017

I wouldn't go down that road if I was you.
You could brick your video card. If money is no issue and you don't mind the risk of ruining your 980 Ti then go for it.
After you brick the card you can just chalk it up to lesson learned and get a Titan Xp.

bystander · May 31, 2017

Most the time, the wrong BIOS results in bricking the card (it won't work at all). Once in a while, usually with AMD, they can sometimes give access to the full chip, but only if the card in question was a full chip that was sold as a lesser card by changing the BIOS.

There have been cases where people have hacked the BIOS to sell them as GPU's they are not, but the only thing they do is change the name which the BIOS displays, but they do not behave any different. Be weary of this behavior from 3d party sales from China.

MaxTehLegend · May 31, 2017

bystander :

ok, but say if it didnt brick your card? will it do what i said it would?

RobCrezz · May 31, 2017

You would need to compare the two bios to know what is different.

MaxTehLegend · May 31, 2017

dark_lord69 :

i never mentioned that id actually do it, only asked what would happen. and say if it didnt brick my card, will software read my card as a titan x? and will my voltages, and clockspeeds etc drop aswell?

USAFRet · May 31, 2017

It might automagically change your card to read as something else, but with no actual performance change.
It might automagically actually change the performance as well.
It might do absolutely nothing.
It might completely brick the card.

I'm leaning towards the last one.

dark_lord69 · May 31, 2017

The Titan X has more:
VRAM
Shader Processors
Texture mapping units
Render output units

The BIOS for the Titan X will assume those are available and likely cause you to brick your card.

But yes, a couple of the other differences would be voltage and clock frequency.

MaxTehLegend · May 31, 2017

USAFRet :

ok thanks

MaxTehLegend · May 31, 2017

dark_lord69 :

dispite the titan x having more of that, the 980Ti is faster for games

dark_lord69 · May 31, 2017

MaxTehLegend :

That depends on the game you are running...
Bioshock Infinite
GeForce GTX TITAN X - 255 FPS
GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 133.5 FPS
- From GPUBoss.com

bystander · Jun 1, 2017

The only reason the 980ti beats the Titan X (Maxwell), is due to the aftermarket cooling and possible base clocks as a result of better cooling.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 2, 2017

dark_lord69 :

MaxTehLegend :

That depends on the game you are running...
Bioshock Infinite
GeForce GTX TITAN X - 255 FPS
GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 133.5 FPS
- From GPUBoss.com

LOL that isnt the Titan XM, thats a Titan Xp

MaxTehLegend · Jun 2, 2017

bystander :

and due to the fact that the 980 Ti's have custom PCB's so that they can reach much higher clocks than any Titan XM, even if it did have a really good chip

bystander · Jun 2, 2017

MaxTehLegend :

While the PCB's may give a little better power phases for more stable clocking, those with water blocks on their Titan's typically get better scores, none the less.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 2, 2017

bystander :

the highest Titan X thats watercooled ive seen is 1450mhz on the core, and 8ghz on the memory. but thats the best possible titan X, you'd usually see an average Titan X hitting 1400mhz w water cooling and tons of voltage and a modified bios. a aftermarket 980Ti can hit 1500mhz easy with little to no overclocking at all. overall 980Ti's are alot better because of their custom PCB's able to push that core as fast as possible, you can only go so fast with a reference PCB. a 980Ti even a reference PCB 980Ti is better. period.

bystander · Jun 3, 2017

MaxTehLegend :

While true, the Titan X does have a lot more cores. I'm not saying the Titan X was worth getting over an aftermarket 980ti, just that when both are OC'ed, the Titan X was typically faster.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 3, 2017

bystander :

well, as i said. thats wrong. when both OC'ed an average titan X cant go past 1300mhz and if it could there's already loads of aftermarket GTX 980Ti's that could hit past 1500mhz without watercooling and bios mods with ease. some come out of the box already reaching 1400mhz. and i wouldn't justify 256 as "alot more cores". i doubt it would add even 2 frames. thats why when you saw a enthusiast build in 2015 they would always use aftermarket 4 GTX 980Ti's in SLI. not because it was cheaper. they could have bought 4 titan X's instead. but they didn't because they know that the titan X suck at overclocking. and if they did get a lucky titan X that is able to reach 1400mhz they could have just gotten a aftermarket 980Ti that would at stock already reach 1400mhz without watercooling and bios mods.

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