Which CPU should I use?

Gavsta220986 · May 31, 2017

I only want the pc for some gaming and bluray ripping and everyday work like Microsoft word and publisher and Photoshop for photo editing.which should I use i5 6600k or i7 6700k?

Herc08 · May 31, 2017

Well the i5 will be just fine if you are just doing photo edits. If you are going to be doing video rendering, then the i7 would be better. Do you already have a motherboard? How much RAM do you have?

sizzling · May 31, 2017

60 or 144Hz? And what GPU?

Also Id say it should be Ryzen 1600 v 6700k/7700k. The i5 with only 4 threads is looking a little restricted, while you can't predict the future its fairly clear games are moving to using more threads.

Gavsta220986 · May 31, 2017

at 60Hz. I dont want to do much gaming as i want to get an xbox one for that. I just want the computer to mainly do everyday tasks and rip bluray movies to hard drive. My ram is g.skills trident z 8 GB at 3200 Mhz asus maximus viii gene motherboard with evga gt 770

Herc08 · May 31, 2017

Gavsta220986 :

If that is the case, just get the i5. But why on earth do you need 3200mhz of 8GB memory?

sizzling · May 31, 2017

While the i5 is a good choice for 60Hz I personally would go Ryzen, just has more headroom with extra threads as games are moving that way.

Herc08 · May 31, 2017

sizzling :

As a long time Intel supporter (still am) I would agree, but he has the ASUS Maximus VIII so spending more for a motherboard and CPU would be pointless...just my three cents.

sizzling · May 31, 2017

Herc08 :

Good point, missed that.

Gavsta220986 · May 31, 2017

I was offered that memory for a good price so i took it. It seems like the i5 is the winner at the moment. I dont want to do any video editing nor encoding as you loose quality

Karadjgne · May 31, 2017

Depending on how the video was shot, you may or may not end up rendering as you'll invariably run into format issues, especially with online sites like YouTube. While the i7 would be considerably faster, that's not to say the i5 isn't capable, and considering its main usage, an i7 just for render speeds isn't worth the extra cash layout unless time is a very important factor.
I'd stick with the i5. To get full use of the i7 would require more ram for those occasional renders, which again, isn't worth it.

Herc08 · May 31, 2017

Gavsta220986 :

You will not lose quality encoding, it will just take longer. unless you mean TRANScoding as in streaming.

Karadjgne · May 31, 2017

You can loose quality when changing formats, like from RAW footage to mp4. All those intentional gaps compression eliminates doesn't always leave you with perfect data. And changing from something like 4k video to HD720p is gonna leave a mark

Herc08 · May 31, 2017

Karadjgne :

This I can agree with, but as you pointed earlier, it depends on how you shot it. So if you are shooting in MP4, and encode in MP4, you should have little to no loss.

Karadjgne · May 31, 2017

Very true. OP is gonna have to weigh possibilities as to what he's shooting with vrs what's going to be playable on a BR, within its own densities and format compatability.

Gavsta220986 · Jun 1, 2017

So what format is bluray disc? If you rip a bluray disc straight to the hdd the quality should be the same as of the disc just at a larger capacity but if you change it from that to liek mp4 you do loose qualit. For this you would need an i7 but I think for just ripping straight to hdd I just need an i5

Karadjgne · Jun 1, 2017

http://www.samsung.com/au/support/skp/faq/1045295

As you can see from the chart, BR doesn't support RAW footage, so figure that most all BR players won't translate it either. Some expensive multi-use players might, but not the standard cheapo units. So if your camera gets better quality with direct recording RAW footage, you first save it to the hdd in the pc, then encode it to something like mpeg4, which any BR can replay. If your camera records satisfactorily in mpeg4, then you don't have to bother with the encode. Whichever cpu you do opt for, I'd test out different recording formats and different encode formats and decide which gives you a good balance of timely performance vrs quality returns. If, for instance there's a plan to stick video on YouTube, you'll also have to cut down the 4k/HD1080p to HD720p, or YouTube will refuse it, it's got to play on any 720p smart TV too.

Decisions, decisions...

Herc08 · Jun 1, 2017

Karadjgne :

http://www.samsung.com/au/support/skp/faq/1045295

As you can see from the chart, BR doesn't support RAW footage, so figure that most all BR players won't translate it either. Some expensive multi-use players might, but not the standard cheapo units. So if your camera gets better quality with direct recording RAW footage, you first save it to the hdd in the pc, then encode it to something like mpeg4, which any BR can replay. If your camera records satisfactorily in mpeg4, then you don't have to bother with the encode. Whichever cpu you do opt for, I'd test out different recording formats and different encode formats and decide which gives you a good balance of timely performance vrs quality returns. If, for instance there's a plan to stick video on YouTube, you'll also have to cut down the 4k/HD1080p to HD720p, or YouTube will refuse it, it's got to play on any 720p smart TV too.

Decisions, decisions...

Maybe I'm having a slow moment, but why would you drop the quality down to 720p to upload to YouTube?

Karadjgne · Jun 2, 2017

YouTube doesn't accept 1080p or 4k video as far as I know, probably because it doubles the size of the files, but you've also got YouTube via smart Tv's, many of which are still 720p. Don't know the exact reasons, but they do need to be 720p mpeg4 format at best. Normally you'll actually see most videos are 480p. Could you imagine the amount of space and bandwidth required if everyone started uploading 4k or even 8k video? For all I know, it might be as simple as a way for YouTube to cut out possibilities of raped movies bypassing copyright protections which is what got apps such as Limewire in trouble.

Herc08 · Jun 2, 2017

Again, I am not sure what you are talking about. Here on YouTube's help page, it clearly gives recommendations for 4K and 1080p videos: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en

I'm sure Google has the hardware to handle many 4K videos. Streaming in 4K just got a reality check, and you do need high bandwidth, which is what Netflix just started doing.

Karadjgne · Jun 2, 2017

Maybe I need to revisit that then. With Google and AT&T fiber getting really popular, YouTube might have upped its game from prior restrictions. Good to know

Herc08 · Jun 2, 2017

Karadjgne :

There are definitely videos in 4K now, providing you have the hardware to shoot it, and hardware to render it. I only shoot in 1080p, but it definitely keeps its quality.

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