How Do You Find The Reason For FPS Drops?

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First off here is my build.
MSI 970a G43 Mobo
AMDFX 8350
Nvidia Geforce 970 GTX
8GB DDR3 RAM
Windows 7 Professional

Sometimes when I'm playing games either my fps drops really low or I'll experience hiccups. I'm playing games like league of legends, heroes of the storm, PUBG. I never put my graphics setting on high. I usually keep them around the medium settings. How do I pinpoint the issue? My first thought would be that I need more RAM.

Any help would be nice! :)
 
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MSE should be replaced with a good AV, whether paid or free.

I use Kaspersky; I've had zero issues with it lagging my games. It just insists that every single program I run is suspect again every time anything updates, be it the game or Kaspersky itself...:lol:

Edit: Apparently someone just now stumbled upon this post and downvoted it. This post is very old; I no longer use Kaspersky. In fact, I actually don't have an AV program at the moment, just Malwarebytes Premium. I stay safe through safe browsing practices, including not browsing questionable sites.
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Use a program like MSI afterburn that monitors everything and can be viewed on a timeline. It will record when the fps drops happen and what the rest of your pc was doing such as cpu and gpu usage. Once you spot the part of your system limiting performance you can start to work out why.

You would be looking for usage hitting 100% at that time or drops in speed Ghz.
 
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Is it the same thing as HWinfo? b/c I have that.
 
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It's similar to HWMonitor. What temperatures does HWMonitor report when you're running games?

Also, if you've never touched your power settings, they're almost definitely set to "balanced." Go into the power options and select "High Performance," hit Apply, and then hit OK. Hopefully that'll fix your issues.

Most of the games you mentioned should do just fine on 8GB RAM; it never hurts to add more, but it shouldn't be necessary in your case.
 
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Highest Ive seen is 61 C. Is the high performance safe for my cpu though? I dont need it at 100% while I'm just browsing the web and stuff.
 
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But do you know how much that usually lowers a lifespan of a cpu?
 
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Will do! thank you!

 
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To elaborate just a tad further on the whole CPU life question, CPUs are usually stress-tested by running them at full capacity for a while; the lifetime of a CPU depends on whether or not it's being used correctly or not. Allowing it to run at 100% won't reduce its lifetime. Forcing it to run at 150% without upgrading the cooling (for example) will reduce its lifespan, potentially right to nothing depending on how good or bad the current cooling setup is.

Telling Windows not to prevent it from running at full power doesn't force it to run at full power all the time, it just allows it to hit 100% if it needs to.
 
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Thank you!
 
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Malwarebytes premium or free? If it's the free version, it's not doing anything unless you tell it to other than updating periodically.

You should probably get something better than MSE...that said, it could be doing quick scans of some of the game's packets, which would cause the game to hiccup as the packet gets delayed and therefore the game gets starved of the info it needs to know what's going on.
 
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Premium. As far as the MSE, should I just close it out while I'm gaming?
 
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MSE isn't actually meant to be a full AV, it's meant to fill in until you can get a proper one.

Try disabling Malwarebytes' realtime protection and killing MSE while you play. Don't leave Malwarebytes off after you're done playing, even if it does fix the issue.
 
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Ok, I'll give it a shot
 
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Is there such thing as a really good free antivirus? I found a forum with this post. It's about MSE.

"I suspect the reason is to prevent the realtime scanning of an AV tool from slowing down file access while a game application is running, leading to potential performance lag as the game frequently accesses files and streams in content?

A lot of commercial AV tools, such as those from from Norton and ESET take into account the possible negative impact to games that realtime scanning engine activity can cause and they provide features such as the ability to manually disable realtime scanning or detect when a full screen application like a game fires up and temporarily lowers the 'aggressiveness' of realtime file scanning while the player plays the game."
 
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