Will this PSU be good enough?

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Hi guys i am in the process of getting a new PC.
The specs are as follows

Intel Core i5-7600 Kaby Lake
ASUS Expedition GeForce® GTX 1070 OC edition 8GB
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) 2133Mhz DDR4
Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA6

The site that im building it from (a very popular and highly rated site where i live)
Is reccomending a 500w PSU (one of their own making it seems)
This is what they say about their PSU
Low deficiency rating, due to the use of high quality +12V Single Rail, and a high effeiciency level (80% Bronze Certified). The PSU is also quit (19dBA)
Will a 500w PSU serve me well? I do not intet to add an extra GPU (ever) as i'v had bad experinces with SLI/crossfire in the past. However one day i might add a more powerful overclocked processer. And in a few years, probably a new GPU.
Will this PSU do - thanks for any input.

Lucky_SLS · Jun 3, 2017

can u post the info sticker on the side of the psu if available? also to be noted is the components used in the PSU. is it cheap chinese caps ? what kind of converter they use n such.
so i would recommend going for trusted brands in general unless its a famous OEM rebranding.
i would suggest a seasonic s12 520 or corsair cxm550, xfx ts 550

R_1 · Jun 3, 2017

a quality 550W power supply will power a i7 7700K and a 1080ti , with all the fixings.
The keyword here is quality.
What is the model and make of the PSU?

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Well the issue is, the PSU is not of any normal model - all the info i have is what i have already given, and it is found on the companys website (Shark gaming) danish company. I think im gonna be safe and make them put a FSP Hydro Gold 650W in there instead.. This will do good, right?

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Sunde-19 :

Absolutely yes. Take a look over here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fsp-hydro-g-650-power-supply,4462-10.html . I'd not trust that company's in-house PSU.

The only possible issue is the motherboard in question. Some boards do need a 4+4pin for the motherboard. That PSU can support those motherboards. 4+4 pin EPS12V (700mm) 1. Others ask for a 4+4 pin and an extra 4pin for the motherboard. With only the 8 pin connector you need to be aware of your motherboard's needs.

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

The motherboard i'v selected is the ASUS H110M-A/M.2, its pretty basic - but should do fine, right?

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Sunde-19 :

No.

You need a Z270 motherboard should you move up to a K sku.

The problems I foresee are.

Very limited OC'ing.

Apart from the fan controls it has a very poor thermal design. That motherboard would typically run a little warmer than otehrs that have more passive coolers where it counts.

With only a single ATX 12V connector OC'ing isn't something that board will like.

I understand that https://sharkgaming.dk/asus-prime-z270-p is about twice as expensive but so too will the performance be ~ twice as good. Designed with OC'ing in mind. 2 motherboard connectors. More passive cooler meaning better cooling. It's an investment in the future so you can grow.

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Hi - thanks for the response. For whatever reason, the build i am going for wont let me select that motherboard.
How will the ASUS ROG STRIX B250G GAMING do, this one i can select in the menu.

Lucky_SLS · Jun 3, 2017

a 7600 with a b250 mobo is fine, but i would suggest the 7700. u wont have to worry abt replacing the cpu in the recent future in that case. with hyperthreading and higher clocks, it will perform better than a moderately oc'ed 7600k.

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Lucky_SLS :

When I look over here https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z270-H270-Q270-Q250-B250---What-is-the-Difference-876/ I see a No under the B250. With OC'ing in the future I see that as a possible issue.

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Hm so i wont be able to overclock with the B250G? I'd rather not have to invest in a I7, as it is immensly more expensive, however i might want to go for a i57600k, unless the B250G cant overclock?

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Sunde-19 :

Is it out of stock? Can you call them and ask them what the issue is?

Lucky_SLS · Jun 3, 2017

aquielisunari :

sry, didnt get wat u said clearly.
OP, the 7600k requires a cooler and the z270 costs more than a b250. considering these, wouldnt a 7700 come close to ur budget?

R_1 · Jun 3, 2017

the computer shop may not deal in retail parts (oem chips only) so he'll have to buy a cooler either way. It has been my experience that this is how they operate. Does the site give the option for a retail CPU in the build?

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Lucky_SLS :

The B250 isn't OC friendy.

One of the features the OP eventually will want is OC'ing. I am trying to address those needs instead of modifying them. It just seems lopsided to me. A powerful 1070. 16GB RAM. A nice 250GB SSD so that more than a few games can reside there at any one time and then can be rotated out when needed. 16GB RAM. A 1TB storage drive. And then a very low end $60 motherboard? The MB is the oddity here. Not on par with the system or the OP's future needs.

Lucky_SLS · Jun 3, 2017

if OP is interested in oc, then fine. since the ryzen release, i prefer 1500X/1600 over 7500/7600k anyday. only a 7700 and 7700k have a proper lead over the 1600.
i know the 1600 lags behind 7600k in gaming a bit, but its only a bit. its better in the other tasks though

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Alright, i am very much seeing the issue with the motherboard here, i'll have to spend quite a bit more than i expected, but i suppose it will be worth it. Here is the new specs of the PC

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z270-P
GPU: ASUS Expedition GeForce® GTX 1070 OC edition 8GB
CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K Kaby Lake
PSU: FSP Hydro Gold 650W
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) 2133Mhz DDR4

Same harddrives as before.
Is this a better value build guys ?? Also thank you for your inputs!

Lucky_SLS · Jun 3, 2017

looks good

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Lucky_SLS :

Agreed.

Because you are jumping into the K sku immediately you will need a CPU cooler. Be Quiet Dark Rock 3, Cryorig H7 and the 212 Evo with an extra fan are some choices. We'd have to know your case's make and model to offer an appropriate solution.

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Lets say i have to cut some costs... Would going for a I5.7600 (non K) be a dumb choice? In the future i will be able to spend the extra on a better CPU... But currently my budget is abit tight. Will the (non K) be fine for the next few years? Or will i end up regretting?

R_1 · Jun 3, 2017

Sunde-19 :

it should be fine. you will not be able to overclock in any real way until you get a k series chip. With the new motherboard the upgrade to overclock-ability is just the new CPU.

my CPU is a stock phenom II 955 black. 8 years in and it is still a fair performer

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Sunde-19 :

That was your original intent. One that I understood and agreed with. I would make sure the 7600 includes its own cooler. I've not seen a non-K Intel cooler without an included stock cooler. Still.... The MB is the foundation of your build. Build a concrete slab as a foundation for a house. The owner will eventually build a second floor. But his financial adviser(his name is Wallet) says that presently he can't afford such a substantial addition but he needs to have a more substantial foundation with his future needs in mind. Nothing dumb about purchasing the 7600.

Lucky_SLS · Jun 3, 2017

how abt down scaling to 8gb of ram? if u r not doing some video editing and its just gaming at 1080p, 8gb is fine imo. cpu wise, having a 7600k with z270 will increase its life span cuz of oc'ing or going for a 7700 with b250 will also have the same effect.

Sunde-19 · Jun 3, 2017

Awesome guys, thats what im going for then. The CPU will have a cooler, either a Alpenföhn Sella, or Intel stock cooler. I dont know which is best, but i suppose since it wont be overclocked, it wont need anything too fancy?

aquielisunari · Jun 3, 2017

Sunde-19 :

https://www.eteknix.com/alpenfohn-sella-92mm-fan-cpu-cooler-review/

says

With the Alpenfohn Sella we have compatibility with the main sockets on the market such LGA 115X (0/5/6), LGA 775, AM2(+) and AM3(+). There is no official support for FM1 or FM2 (but FM1/2 are AM3(+) inter-compatible) APUs as far as I am aware and LGA 2011 and LGA 1366 are not supported.

I'd use the stock cooler for now.

Will this PSU be good enough?

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