ThreadRipper and Kaby Lake X

Atreyo Bhattacharjee

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After the announcements of Kaby Lake X and ThreadRipper, is anyone else worried that the PC market will soon become for the enthusiests with 16, 32, and more core count cpus that 90% of people cant afford?

Also, if I bought an i5 7700k, do you think it would be too underpowered to run games in 1-3 years?
 
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The pc game market will NEVER get to that level. Game makers like to and need to make money. If they only make games that only folks with the highest ends systems can afford they will never make up their development costs.
Nothing to do with gaming. The average person still games at 1080p, thinking of shifting to 1440p. And at these resolution the 4 core hyperthreaded chips still rules and will continue to be good for 1-3yrs. Beside that fact that most games doesnt even use all 4 cores, with a few exception these days. Its still a long way till games using 6 cores will be standard, so using 16 cores is a far cry.
Those chips will be good for high end editing/rendering/multi vm/smalll server kind of workstation usage.

Okhane ponchote are dos bochor lagbe. :)
 
Intel won't stop making cheap chips, that's the majority of their profits with deals with Dell, Hp and the others.
High core count xeons and i7 and soon to be i9 due have a higher profit margin, but there sales volume is much lower than say an i3

You can add as many cpu cores/threads as you like but at some point the game becomes gpu bottlenecked at an fps hopefully above your monitor's refresh rate.

The 16c/32t processors aren't for gamers specifically, they are aimed at people using programs that are able to use all of the cores given.

For instance, I can give WoW 2 threads and give handbrake 10 threads, my cpu is 6c/12t, and do the rendering while I game at a respectable speed.

With i9/Threadripper I could give WoW 2 threads and give handbrake 30 threads for even faster renderings.
Not that I plan on buying it anytime soon I don't render in handbrake all that much and my current speed is fast enough.


Having said that whose to say we will never get to the point where 8c/16t is the norm for desktop pc?

Every other part of the computer is getting faster from storage being replaced with m.2 solid states offering multiple gigabytes a second of read and write to graphics cards increasing by double the fps over just 2 generations, comparing my 780 ti to a 1080 ti to ram steadily increasing ddr2, ddr3, ddr4.

Processors need to keep pace with the other parts of the computer in order to maintain balance and synergy.
There is no point having a hypothetical ssd that can read 25 gigabytes a second if your i5 only lets you read 8 gigabytes a second with 100% cpu usage.

The processor can gain speed in 3 major ways:

1. It can become more efficient in how it carries out its instruction due to architectural changes or a die shrink.
One of the best examples being the core 2 duo which kept amd firmly behind Intel for years.
And Ryzen which is so much better than. Excavator it shouldn't even be in the same sentence.

2. You can increase the frequency of the processor.
Intel tried this strategy for the Pentium 4. It made a lot of heat, so the strategy was abandoned for the above core 2 duo architecture.

3. You can add more cores to the cpu and or enable simultaneous multithreading aka hyperthreading.
This is where we are at now. It's much easier and cheaper to add more cores to a cpu than to totally redesign it from scratch


Progress will continue to the point where technology from 10 years ago looks like relics that should be in the Smithsonian.

"What Tom you said you have a cpu chart from 10 years ago?"
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-charts-2007,1644-16.html

We get gems like 55.65 FPS at 1024X768 in Supreme Commander with Intel's top of the line processor.

I use a Q6600 in one of my nas's lol.