Any other speed controller for 4-pin PWM fans on the market?

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Are there any other 12V speed controller for 4-pin PWM fans which don't have to be connected to a motherboard on the market, other than this product?

Noctua NA-FC1 PWM Fan Controller
http://noctua.at/en/products/accessories/na-fc1


The product above would work just fine, however, it's not in stock anywhere, and I need it fast..
 
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Yes, you can provide power AND control the speed of a 4-pin fan using Voltage Control Mode that is used for control of 3-pin fans, as most third-party fan controllers do. You probably do NOT even need an adapter. You see, the mechanical and electrical layout of pins for fan connectors are set up for this backwards compatibility. Normally you CAN fit the female 4-pin connector from your fan onto the male 3-pin header of a fan power source, and it will work fine. What is "missing" in this connection is that the fan never receives a PWM signal from the 4th pin that is not used, BUT the power supplied on Pin #2 is not a fixed +12 VDC that a proper 4-pin header would provide. It is a VARYING +VDC, so that controls fan speed. The only PROBLEM...

Lutfij

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Swiftech make the 8 way PWM splitter:
http://www.swiftech.com/8-WayPWMsplitter-sata.aspx

EKWB have one as well and Akasa have two:
http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Cables&type_sub=Fan%20Cable%20Adapters&model=AK-CBFA07-45
http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Cables&type_sub=Fan%20Cable%20Adapters&model=AK-CBFA06-30
http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Cables&type_sub=Fan%20Cable%20Adapters&model=AK-CBFA03-45

But they are not identical to what you're looking at. In fact If PWM, you have the advantage of taking control of it via your BIOS or through software via a fan curve. the need for a resistor between a PWM source essentially makes a voltage regulated controller rather than give you PWM support off the motherboard.
 

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Thank you for the reply.

I'm looking for a 12V controller to control the speed of the 4-pin PWM fans entirely without a computer. I'm making a mini swamp cooler. :) I could just have them run at full speed but I'd rather have control of the speed.
 

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You will have a hard time finding exactly what you want. The new 4-pin PWM type of fan has a backwards compatibility feature it its design. If it is fed from a 3-pin system using Voltage Control Mode (and no PWM signal for Pin #4), ot still IS under control. Thus, one way to market a "universal" fan speed controller that will work well with Both 3-pin adn 4-pin fans it to sell a system using voltage Control Mode (for 3-pin fans) and put 4-pin headers on the unit so people don't worry about the details. A LOT of mobos do this already! Hence there is little incentive to market a separate fan controller design that can ONLY work with 4-pin fans.

Why do you want 4-pin fan in particular for your project? Why would 3-pin fans not work for you?
 

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Thank you all for your time.

I want to use Noctua's NF-F12-iPPC-3000-PWM 4-pin fan for the following reasons:

Price: $26 (affordable)

Airflow: 109.8 CFM (high air flow)

Static Pressure: 7.63 mm H₂O (high pressure)

Max. Current: 0.3 A (low draw off battery)

Ingress Protection: IP52 (some water resistance for swamp cooling)


I couldn't find a comparable fan, especially with the IP52 or greater rating. Are you saying that if I put a 4-pin to 3-pin adapter on a 4-pin fan, I could then use a 3-pin fan controller (which uses voltage) to control the fan speed?

 

Paperdoc

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Yes, you can provide power AND control the speed of a 4-pin fan using Voltage Control Mode that is used for control of 3-pin fans, as most third-party fan controllers do. You probably do NOT even need an adapter. You see, the mechanical and electrical layout of pins for fan connectors are set up for this backwards compatibility. Normally you CAN fit the female 4-pin connector from your fan onto the male 3-pin header of a fan power source, and it will work fine. What is "missing" in this connection is that the fan never receives a PWM signal from the 4th pin that is not used, BUT the power supplied on Pin #2 is not a fixed +12 VDC that a proper 4-pin header would provide. It is a VARYING +VDC, so that controls fan speed. The only PROBLEM might be a poor mechanical design of the controller's output connector. A mobo 3-pin male header is just 3 pins sticking up with a guide "tongue" next to them, so a wider 4-pin male connector fits on just fine. Some output connectors on fan controllers MAY have shrounds around the pins that prevent fitting the wider 4-pin male, OR they might be closely spaced together to interfere. So you MIGHT have to make some minor adjustment to the controller's output connectors. Bear that in mind in choosing a controller.

HOWEVER, the Noctua site for that iPPC fan does have a caution in one of its FAQ answers, as follows.


Can industrialPPC fans be used with fan controllers and resistor cables (Low-Noise Adaptors)?

Noctua recommends not to use industrialPPC fans with common PC fan controllers, resistor cables (Low-Noise Adaptors) or other devices such as potentiometers that work by applying (variable) resistance rather than actually generating different voltages such as a laboratory power supply does. Due to the higher internal resistance of the industrialPPC fans’ three phase motor, applying additional resistance will cause the fans not to start (e.g. with Low-Noise Adaptors) or to have high starting speeds (e.g. with most common PC fan controllers). Please note that the industrialPPC fans feature starting voltages between 5.5V and 6V and can be run at these voltages on devices such as laboratory power supplies or mainboard fan controllers which actually generate lower voltages rather than applying resistance. Noctua thus recommends to use either PWM or voltage based mainboard fan control or laboratory/industrial power supplies for controlling the speed of industrialPPC fans.


So, the iPPC design of fan motors are 3-phase (not 2-phase like common fans) for greater power and efficiency. Among other things, this means its internal resistance is higher than common fans. At the same time, it actually consumes more power (and hence uses more current) than a common fan in order to deliver the much higher air flow at its max speed. MANY common fan controllers use a simple method of varying the voltage they supply to their fan. They simply add an extra (adjustable) resistance in series with the fan, thus reducing the voltage the fan gets. The amount of voltage the controller drops with its own resistance depends on the current flowing through it and the fan. If the fan draws more current than a "normal" fan at some reduced-speed setting (say, 60% on a knob dial), the actual voltage being supplied to the iPPC fan is LOWER that a "normal" fan would get. So Noctua warns that using such a controller CAN produce a stalled fan because the fan is running slower than you might expect according to the marking on the control knob. This is not a big problem at very high settings, but an iPPC fan could stall (or, fail to start up) if its control knob is set too low.

You certainly can learn what knob settings to make using a third-party speed controller module for your iPPC fan. You just need to be aware of this factor and adjust accordingly.
 
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