Plugging in a 75W card into a slot rated for 25W

secretempire1

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I have an Intel DH61AG thin-mini ITX motherboard and I am trying to decide on what graphics card to use. It only has a PCI-E x4 slot which by the product documentation and a forum post from an Intel employee, it is only capable of delivering up to 25W.

I've read many forum posts from people saying that plugging a greater wattage card into a lower wattage slot won't work or that you'll need to use additional power. I've also seen many forum posts of people saying that you can plug the card in, and that 25W only applies to add-on cards, but graphics cards will negotiate with the motherboard for higher wattage. These two statements are obviously contradictory of eachother.

The card I'm eyeing doesn't use external power, so I can't plug anything into it. Thin-mini itx motherboards also have unconventional power supplies. They are external to the chassis and plug into the back of the motherboard. They do not use a standard ATX/SFX PSU, so I can't use a powered riser either.

So anyway, the forums here and elsewhere have a lot of theoretical discussion, but I haven't seen anyone try it and say "Yes it works" or "No, it doesn't work." Does anyone have any direct, first-hand experience of whether or not an x4 slot can pull 75W? You have tried it and you know whether or not it will work? My other choice is a lower performing 30W card. Would this one work? Again, please indicate whether or not you have tried it yourself and know it to work or not work.
 

Lutfij

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Short answer, if the sources claiming that it can be done can't provide a picture, it didn't happen.

Long answer, the slot as stated by the Intel poster has said that you're power draw from the slot is limited to 25W so if anything it could just damage the slot. In retrospect the thin mini itx boards are meant for scenario where you'd be building an AIO computer within a display or evena kiosk or a point of sales system which doesn't require anything above the iGPU which bring me to say, that you're trying to make it accomplish a task it's not designed to perform.

You could look into this but I can't guarantee that it'll work.

That being said, are you trying to make this system into a mining rig?
 

secretempire1

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Thanks for the reply. I was using a GT 710 before which has a 25W TDP, so it worked fine, but the capabilities of that card are not up to my liking so I am working on finding a replacement. I am building an HTPC/gaming-ish computer.

There is one other solution I was considering, which is to utilize the otherwise unused 2-pin CPU power header as an additional power source and wire it up to the riser. However, there is much research to be done on that and I will have to make up a suitable circuit to do so. I don't even know if it's possible to pull current from the CPU header and if so, how much is safe to pull from it.

The motherboard is rated for 65W TDP CPU's, so I'm assuming that the header is capable of delivering 65W.

But alas, we shall see.
 

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I know this is a ways ago, but I'm very interested to hear how this worked out for you. Ive got an almost identical build-- a dh61ag that I was able to get a GT 1030 into--but now I'm looking to upgrade the Mobo to a dq77kb thin mini. I've already bricked one trying to get the 1030 to run and I'm hesitant to sacrifice another. Did you make use of the 2-pin?

 

secretempire1

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Hi James. I eventually sold the DH61AG and bought a Gigabyte GA-H110TN, which is also a thin-mini itx w/ a PCI-E x4. I am currently using a GT 1030 on it as well and have never had a problem. Performance and temperatures are stable. The power draw doesn't seem to be a problem.

A few months ago on Reddit I found someone who was running a DQ77K w/ a GTX 1050 Ti and hasn't had any problems
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/62ptwx/is_my_sffpc_good_enough_to_join_your_ranks/
https://imgur.com/gallery/wJHWn