First time build, asking for advice. (Ryzen 1700)

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Hi guys, I am trying to build my first gaming PC. Totally a newb. Did a lot of research last week and finally comes up with a draft. My purpose would be playing games (dota2 maybe more) and watch anime & movies. I know these don't require a really high end pic but I just wanna build a good one for future consideration. Also, I wanna overclock ryzen 1700 to 3.7 Ghz.


Please take a look at the list and comment whatever you like. E.g. Do I need a CPU cooler? Another MOBO option? Anything you wanna say.


Really appreciate it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTH6Z8
 
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Hellfire set a precedent there getting a 1080 in for the same budget.

I've just took his build & changed the drives to give you more space & better value for money.
Because in all fairness everything else he did there was absolutely fine by me .

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($106.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard...
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This is a pretty good mid to high range build. Me personally, I wouldn't go with Seagate hard drives. I find them unreliable. But that's just me. I would go with a G3 power supply as well. Other than that, this is a pretty solid build and should allow you to enjoy those games and watch whatever movies you want. Don't forget you will need a Windows OS key and a monitor.
 
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Thanks for your reply! what HHD would you recommend? also can you specify what is a G3 power? sorry really new.
 
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The stock cooler is good enough for 3.7ghz. Better board and gpu.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($106.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($502.30 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.78 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1301.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Quadruple the SSD Speed.
Newer PSU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($96.47 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($421.05 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1344.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I'll definitely change my PSU to G3. Haven't figure out what is the difference between M.2 SSd and SSD. I googled but still unclear. Is M.2 just a better version of SSD? it seems like a chip instead of a ssd/hhd.
 
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I wouldn't mind paying more for a better performance. Is M.2 over perform SSD?
 
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Yes M.2 is better than SSD. And if you don't mind than go for it. But remember, SSDs/M.2 are not meant to increase gaming performance. Just loading performance. So when a game loads up, it's not improving game play. It will have faster boot times in Windows, and open files and program faster. It's main purpose is the file transfer speeds, and that's where it shines. But I can assume most of your data will be on your hard drive, so I don't see it being a big improvement...for you at least.
 
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Hellfire set a precedent there getting a 1080 in for the same budget.

I've just took his build & changed the drives to give you more space & better value for money.
Because in all fairness everything else he did there was absolutely fine by me .

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($106.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($502.30 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.78 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1301.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-09 14:10 EDT-0400
 
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I personally wouldn't overclock on a B350M motherboard. I'd recommend a X370 since you can achieve a way better overclock and of course "safer"... B350 Motherboard technically aren't made for overclocking as much as X370 are since they usually have less power phases and will stress the mobo.
Check out this build!
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QZ72M8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QZ72M8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($120.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB GAMING Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($239.00)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB GAMING Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($239.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1249.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Be pretty LIT!
Sounds like you won't be playing too intensive games? So maybe just get one RX 580 and see if that's enough , assume 1080P? If so it should be plenty... RX 580 in CF should perform a bit better than a GTX 1080 if the game supports it ;) Even then only 1 is fine bud. Good Luck!
 
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x370 is for extreme OC when you wanna push it all the way. For casual OC, b350 is more than enough. He said he wanna OC to 3.7 ghz, which most people are achieving on a b350.
 
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Cheapest rx580 is around $240. Two of them makes $480.
Cheapest gtx1080 is around $475.

The 1080 smashes those two 580 down to the ground. Not to mention OP will face one hell of a difficult time scaling on certain games with two 580.
 
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Crappy mobile site , hellfire - down voted you by mistake :-/

Absolutely agreed on a 1070 / 1080 over ANY crossfire configuration.
I would never recommend a dual GPU setup when you can afford a stronger single card - probably 5% of newer titles actually scale well with crossfire/sli.
 
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Seriously you're advice isn't great , a crappy specced 120gb sdd, a refurb 3tb hard drive , a crap quality 750w psu & 2 power hungry 580s which is gonna run hot , hot , hot.

I would take mine or Hellfires build (they're pretty much the same anyway) over yours any day of the week.

Nobody would pick a pair of 580s over a single 1080 unless they're plain nuts.

 
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A refurbished product isn't bad... Sometimes they are actually better than new since they have been repaired and looked over to make sure their working. When you could get 3TB of space over 1TB for around the same price, I'd take the better deal. The Power Supply isn't bad? Your crazy if you think that the new CXM Line is crap quality . Maybe if you actually take the time to look what people are providing instead of instanting bashing on them. Bet you didn't watch the video or even click on the PSU link to see that it's the new one lol. An SSD is an SSD, most are around the same speed. Then you tell me 580's are hot hot? Your definitely super bias man. Your saying that blanket statement since their AMD lol. Like you have no sense of information to back up what your saying? A single RX 580 runs cooler than a GTX 1080 :/
I've tested things like this bud.....

Edit: AMD has come a long way since the FX series. You may think they run hot since you own AMD CPU's but they are definitely better now! Im just trying to give the OP his options. Not trying to start anything man....
 
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You must be joking. 2xrx580 against 1080. It smashes the 580. You need to rack up more information.
 
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The RX 580's are in like 10 FPS slower than the GTX 1080 Ti. Anyways lets not argue. We are trying to help him after all....
 
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