would an i7 4790K/4770K be a viable upgrade for the future?

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

would the i7 4790K/4770K be a viable upgrade for the future? i used to own a i5 4690K and it was bottlenecking my GTX 980Ti hard even @4.5ghz in CPU intensive games due to its 4 cores. im thinking of upgrading to the i7 4790K/4770K but im scared it will still bottleneck my 980Ti still in games like battlefield 1 and future games that will utilise more than 4 cores.

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

Well, what do you mean by bottle necking? Was it stuttering or dropping FPS?

The i5 is still a reasonable good card, but upping to the i7 should yield better performance, especially since it has 4 more threads to use.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

Herc08 :

it did both, stuttering and dropping FPS. and my GPU Usage on battlefield 1 was only at 60-70% on battlefield 1 while my i5 was pinned @100%. but the reason why im sceptical is because the i7 4770/4790/6700/7700 has still only got 4 cores. and games like battlefield 1 and i expect more games in the future will need more than 4 cores.

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

Yes it only has 4 cores, but they also have hyper threading which helps utilize those cores as well. So to your computer, it seem like it sees 8 cores.

If not, you could go the Ryzen route and get a 6 or 8 core CPU, but that requires a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM. I honestly recommend grabbing the i7-4790K if you can and you should see better performance. However, do note that not everyone has the same results. Which is why some people can only have a stable 4.5ghz, while others can hit 4.9ghz easily.

dark_lord69 · Jun 9, 2017

I would bet you have software slowing you down.
Your i5 CPU is excellent and a top tier CPU.

I wouldn't spend a dime on an upgrade with first....
1. format c:
2. Install windows and needed drivers and video card drivers only (NO SOFTWARE PROGRAMS YET)
3. Install your game
Does it still run like crap?
If yes:
Upgrade
If no:
It was a software issue causing your speed issue, NOT your hardware being insufficient.

I've had software updates that brought my computer to it's knees while I was attempting to play a game. When the update was done my computer ran the way I expected again.

If you have windows 10 you'll see it's easy to dig into CPU usage and see what specifically is using 100% of your CPU. I would check to make sure it really is Battlefield causing the issue. (Your hardware should be more than enough.)

You might want to read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/58vrzd/if_youre_experiencing_stuttering_and_100_cpu/

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

Herc08 :

that's not the only reason why i don't want to get a ryzen chip, its also because the ryzen chips aren't even faster than an i5 and since all i do really is game and watch videos on my other monitor while playing i honestly don't see why id buy a ryzen chip even if it does have a ton of cores and threads. but i'm starting to think that games in 2018 are going to need more than 4c 8t CPU's, which is why im scared of getting an i7 4790K/4770K.

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

dark_lord69 :

An OS reload could help. Before re-installing Windows, what programs are being used in task manager to make it 100%?

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

dark_lord69 :

that was one of the many things i did and it did still run like crap. and i made this thread because im going to upgrade but i dont want to make the wrong decision and get the i7 4770K/4790K and still get crap performance due to the game requireing more than 4c 8t.

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

MaxTehLegend :

Well that wouldn't make sense. Most developers know that majority of the gaming community only has upt o 8 threads for gaming, so it wouldn't be fair to go more than 4 cores. And Intel is still pushing out only 4 core chips, unless you go the enthusiast route. As long as Intel is pushing out 4 core chips, I doubt games will use more than 4 cores.

That's just my 3 cents.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

Herc08 :

i dont ever install bloatware or applications that will somehow effect my performance, i checked task manager and it seems that everything else was using up to around 1-3% CPU Usage apart from battlefield 1. i also did do a clean install of windows 10 and still had crap performance.

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

So BF1 was using 95-97%? If that is the case, it probably is time to upgrade. As I stated in my earlier post, 4 cores is where it is at now, and I doubt that will be changing. However, if you want more cores, you are either going to have to go the Ryzen route or break down and get a X99 board. But with that, you will be spending more money than you are now.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

Herc08 :

MaxTehLegend :

Well that wouldn't make sense. Most developers know that majority of the gaming community only has upt o 8 threads for gaming, so it wouldn't be fair to go more than 4 cores. And Intel is still pushing out only 4 core chips, unless you go the enthusiast route. As long as Intel is pushing out 4 core chips, I doubt games will use more than 4 cores.

That's just my 3 cents.

yeah that makes sense, but 4c 8t isnt that much of a jump from 4c 4t. which is why im quite sceptical of getting a i7 4770K/4790K. because if i get it and see bottlenecks in the same games i'd be quite upset.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

Herc08 :

yeah, when i saw battlefield 1 use 100% of my CPU Usage thats when i had the idea of upgrading. but im just asking if the i7 4770K/4790K will still bottleneck my system in the same game, if so. i cant really consider it an "upgrade", and im not sure if getting a Ryzen chip will be considered an upgrade at all since they're all slower than my i5 4690K on games.

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

Do you know how cores and threads work? Do you know how Intel's hyperthreaddig works? If it wasn't such a big jump, there wouldn't be a hgiher price point with it. For example the 7600k is $228 while the 7700k is $328. The reason for this is because higher cache, higher clock speeds out of the box, and simultaneous multi-threading. Mean that it should be able to handle many applications at once.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

Herc08 :

yeah i guess that makes sense, thanks for the advice!

captaincharisma · Jun 9, 2017

a ryzen would be on par with any of those 4th gen CPU's for gaming. because of the updated features i's say ryzen wopuld be a better future upgde then a 4th gen intel i7 because of the features. mind you this is if you're not considering an upgrade to an intel 6th or 7th gen core

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

captaincharisma :

a ryzen would be on par with any 4th gen i5's. not the i7's. the i7 4770K/4790K are basically the same as the i7 6700K/7700K. and since the i5 4690K trades blows with the top of the line R7 chips i cant really consider ryzen an "upgrade"

Herc08 · Jun 9, 2017

MaxTehLegend :

I don't think you understand how CPU works my friend. Ryzen has their own "hyper threadding" technology that allows it handle processes more efficiently. I don't think an i5-4690k would touch a 1700x. You may want to read up on what Ryzen truly is.

And I'm saying this as a long time Intel supporter (still true to blue).

captaincharisma · Jun 9, 2017

MaxTehLegend :

CPU wise it wouldn't be but ryzen would have updated hardware like DDR4 type ram and faster USB ports like USB 3.1.

MaxTehLegend · Jun 9, 2017

captaincharisma :

for me personally DDR4 is a downside since i have fast DDR3 Ram and dont want to splash another £50-£100 on RAM. and i don't charge things or transfer data with my USB ports. only plug in things like keyboards, mice, headphones etc. so for me there really isn't any benefits for getting the newest platform

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