SSD 120gb vs 250gb

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As far as I knew, there was only 3 different versions. There was partner OEM, like for Dell and HP. These were specific versions, each tailored for the platform, so the resource/recovery discs were tied directly to the motherboard and vice versa. A Dell resource couldn't be used on a HP platform etc.
Then there was retail OEM, which is what you bought at Wal-Mart etc. It came in either x86 or x64 versions, and once activated, was tied to the motherboard. But being on disc, you could reinstall repeatedly, no need to call Microsoft as the key was already recognised by windows algorithms.
Then there was full retail. This version differed from the other 2 as it came with both x86 and x64 and was standalone. It's key was tied to windows...

ryanmm

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It came with my prebuilt pc and I am just going to use it on my new build. Does it take up more gb? and is there a way to get the home version by doing something to mine?
 

USAFRet

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No, you can't just change it into a Home license.
If it came with your prebuilt PC...you (probably) cannot transfer that to a new system.

But you can try.
Read and do this before you change any parts, while the old system is still working:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3164428/windows-build-1607-activation.html
 

Karadjgne

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I'm running w10Pro on a 120Gb. Takes up @57Gb by itself. That's before any OS important stuff like office or Photoshop or other apps that benefit from direct OS attachment via ssd vrs stored on hdd. So even then, and downloads or saved apps get redirected from the common "C:\user\download or whatever appropriate folder to F:\stuff etc. Minor hassle as I'm the only user. Just don't let the kid use it or everything ends up in C and then it is a pain to find and move everything once the SSD hits over 100Gb.
 

USAFRet

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100GB used space is too much for a 120GB SSD.
Actual usable space is 111GB.
Leave out 15% free space for TRIM leaves you at a max of 85-90GB usable space.

Not critical if you manage it all the time....but that is just one more thing to have to mess with all the time.
 

ryanmm

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I have the os linked to my MS account. So if i build my new pc, cant I sign in to my ms account and activate it on that pc. This pc I am using will still work. Lets say this pc is 1 and my new one is 2. If I have 1 turned on with my gpu inside of it and go to my ms account and look at the devices, will it detect 2? If that is a yes, I could take my gpu out of 1 and put it into 2? Happy ending?
 

USAFRet

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It depends.
Maybe you can activate it on the new system.Pretty much the only case where it does not work is a preinstalled Win 10 OEM.
As yours might be?
But since you don't actually know where it came from....

Is it a Dell/HP/Asus/ something?
 

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https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-AMD-730-Desktop-Gaming-Computer/dp/B01LAMXYYK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1497044438&sr=8-4&keywords=gaming+pc+fx4300 this is the pre built
 

USAFRet

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Yes, the line between OEM and Retail is very blurred now.
But there is a distinction in exactly where the Win 10 originally came from.
A preinstalled OEM Win 10, like from Dell/HP/etc...can't be transferred to ne hardware.
Any other valid method of getting Win 10 on the system, OEM or not, will work to transfer to new hardware.

For instance...
A previous Win 7 OEM that was Upgraded to Win 10....works
A Win 10 OEM that you bought and installed....works.
A preinstalled Win 10 OEM....apparently does not work.

I saw a matrix chart on this a while ago. Of course I can't find it again...:kaola:

And of course, MS changes the rules, seemingly at random. Determined by sunspots, maybe.
So it might work with whatever licensing he has.
 
So Microsoft must be making a distinction in the OEM keys they sell to Dell, vs. an OEM key you or I could buy as a builder. Probably something in the numerals/letters in the Product Key itself. So you or I should buy an OEM license if cheaper than a retail, and not have to worry about future hardware changes (unless Microsoft changes it's policies again).

For the OP's question, I am getting by with a 80GB OS drive on Windows 8.1 Pro, 64 Bit, but I keep my drive lean, don't have a system restore partition, no games, etc. If your budget allows go for the 250 GB.
 

USAFRet

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Exactly.



Right.
A 120GB drive can work, if you're rabid about what goes on it.
With todays prices, though...there is little reason to get anything smaller than a 250GB drive.
 

Colif

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Only Microsoft would have 2 things called OEM that have two different sets of rules applied to them. Sane people would have more of a distinction. Or rename one of them to something else.

So in theory op should be able to do the linkages to email address and move Win 10 licence to new PC cause the OEM who made PC isn't a big name brand.
I only use 50gb of a 250, but I would feel squashed if I had only had 50gb more left. Win 10 version updates need at least 20gb to play in, 50gb doesn't leave a lot of space for a windows.old folder or anything lavish like a hiber.sys file.
 

USAFRet

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The whole licensing ladder has always been confusing.
OEM, System Builder, Retail.
But in a Retail store (walmart), you buy an OEM. :pt1cable:
 

Karadjgne

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As far as I knew, there was only 3 different versions. There was partner OEM, like for Dell and HP. These were specific versions, each tailored for the platform, so the resource/recovery discs were tied directly to the motherboard and vice versa. A Dell resource couldn't be used on a HP platform etc.
Then there was retail OEM, which is what you bought at Wal-Mart etc. It came in either x86 or x64 versions, and once activated, was tied to the motherboard. But being on disc, you could reinstall repeatedly, no need to call Microsoft as the key was already recognised by windows algorithms.
Then there was full retail. This version differed from the other 2 as it came with both x86 and x64 and was standalone. It's key was tied to windows itself, not the motherboard, the license was on the user not the pc. Could install it on anything anytime as long as only 1 pc was in active service because the license belonged to the user not any individual pc, but wad only a single usage or 3x usage license. That cost more.
 
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