i7-7700k + GTX 970. Is the EVGA 600W PSU strong enough to run this?

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I'm in the process of doing some upgrades on my rig. Currently I'm running a i5-2500k with my GTX 970. I'm upgrading my motherboard to support the 7th generation psu. I'm upgrading to the ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero Motherboard, with the i7-7700k psu.

After I purchased my Motherboard and PSU, I got to asking myself whether my 600W psu will be up to the task. I'm sure it is but I tend to be paranoid, especially since alot of money is going into two pieces alone. What do you all think? Please and thank you
 
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Well the PSU is plenty powerful enough. I'm afraid you just spent a ton of money on that I7 7700K and Motherboard when you could have gotten a new Ryzen 7 1700 Series. The I7 7700K is having plenty of overheating issues right now! I'd be very careful when overclocking or just doing anything. The Ryzen 1700 can be overclocked with the stock Wraith Spire RGB Cooler to match the 1800X which performs with the I7 7700K give or take 5 FPS slower. The Ryzen chips may be 5 FPS lower than average but many people have stated that they are completely buttery smooth when it comes to gameplay. Even the I7's have a tad of stutter where as the Ryzen chips dont! Your choice but the 600W is PLENTY!
Best of Luck Man!
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EVGA - 80 PLUS 600W ATX 12V/EPS 12V Power Supply - Black, is the generic title of my psu. (EVGA 600W). I just purchased the mobo + cpu, so I'm trying to figure it all out before it gets here by the end of the week.
 
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Well the PSU is plenty powerful enough. I'm afraid you just spent a ton of money on that I7 7700K and Motherboard when you could have gotten a new Ryzen 7 1700 Series. The I7 7700K is having plenty of overheating issues right now! I'd be very careful when overclocking or just doing anything. The Ryzen 1700 can be overclocked with the stock Wraith Spire RGB Cooler to match the 1800X which performs with the I7 7700K give or take 5 FPS slower. The Ryzen chips may be 5 FPS lower than average but many people have stated that they are completely buttery smooth when it comes to gameplay. Even the I7's have a tad of stutter where as the Ryzen chips dont! Your choice but the 600W is PLENTY!
Best of Luck Man!
 
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Google I7 7700K Very Hot- Explains the rest for ya lol
The CPU is very equivalent actually... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXVIPo_qbc4&t=263s
The Ryzen 7 1700 is at 3.9GHZ while the I7 7700K is OC'd 5GHZ. The chip still keeps up with the Intel Chip! However there have been reports of the Ryzen CPU's somehow running smoother than Intel's even when the FPS is lower . Most cases it keeps up and will last longer. PM Me if you have anymore questions bud. Best Of Luck!
If it were me I'd Opt for the Ryzen CPU and return the I7
 
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Amazon can't cancel the order even though the order hasn't shipped yet LOL. So I have to wait for the package to arrive, return it to UPS to say I'm refusing the shipment, then presumably wait a week or so for a refund. But I'm definitely returning it after getting this information. Thank you!
 
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this is laughably incorrect

the i7 7700 is far superior for gaming, especially at 1080p

where did you get 5 fps? LOL
 
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If you watch the information I provided the Ryzen 7 1700 keeps up with the I7 7700K . Anyways the I7 is having an issue with thermals right now .

Even when the I7 7700K is at 5GHZ the Ryzen keeps up . Plus you shouldn't even be overclocking​ the I7 due to its issues . The Ryzen will last you longer and save you more money . Most people even reported that the Intel chips tend to stutter sometimes where as Ryzen is smooth.
 
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it doesn't


you gave NO information, just spewed out a lot of hearsay


how about actual fps benchmarks?


the ryzen is the one that is very limited, without much overhead left to overclock
 
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I provided an unbiased professional who does this for a living . If he were wrong then he wouldn't be doing this kind of work . If you look at the two chips the Ryzen keeps up ! Your comparing an 8 Core 16 Thread Overclocking towards a 4 Core 8 Thread . Of course the Overclocking is going to be better on the I7 . What's the point of Overclocking it if the temps are too high though ? Point strongly proved !
 
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joker???


LOL his "5 ghz" 7700 benchmarks were severely wacked

look it up, people called him out on his super low benchmarks on it

the scores he has are more in line with a SEVERELY UNDERCLOCKED 7700


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one of his friends even called him out on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWarC_Nygew
 
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Still I wouldn't go for the I7 7700K since they're over heating rn . He didn't screw up his benchmarks . The Intel chips are laggy still even if they do beat the Ryzen chip by a few . The ryzens are buttery smooth . Ryzen follows right behind the I7 and will last longer
 
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you keep saying that, doesn't make it true

YES HE DID, I posted the link that shows he did

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They show he underclocked the 7700k to ~4ghz to get those scores
 
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@subaruwrx244 you have been proven wrong on so many levels. Ryzen is good for everything EXCEPT gaming. 7700k can overheat if you apply extreme overclocking or if you have a crappy cooler. If you buy such CPU you are a fool to buy a bad cooler or you are not going to OC it properly.
You need to understand that the guy you have his YouTube linked has underclocked 7700k and it's proven he has done it.
Also, search ANY decent benchmarking website to see the difference between an 1800x and 7700k in GAMING.
I accept that in everything else ryzen is awesome.
 
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I guess you need proof then https://www.extremetech.com/computing/248908-intel-responds-i7-overheating-issue-cluelessly-suggests-stop-overclocking
People have different ways of testing mythology. If you were to test the Ryzen chips on a X370 with 3200MHZ with the chip clocked at 4GHZ. Then set performance to high performance , you getting roughly the same performance. Your also getting a chip that is smoother and will last longer for a cheaper price.

EDIT: Many benchmarks and comparisons were right when the chips came out. They have had many bios and updates in general. Patches for games etc. They have more potential still than the Intel chips. Game developers still need time top optimize their games for these chips.
 
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The performance advantage of 7700k is mostly whe you are heavily CPU bound, all the reviews I have seen are for 1080p with a 1080ti. The OP has a GTX 970, so he will be GPU bound. With a GTX 970 the advantage of the 7700k is minimal.
So saying that 7700 is far superior for gaming isn't accurate. It is superior for 1080p gaming with a 1080ti. Or high refresh gaming with a strong GPU (GTX 1080 or better) on low detail settings.

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508/3

Other problem with 7700k is that currently it has turned into a lottery, if you are unlucky you will get one that soars temps if overclocked due to the thermal paste.

Even where the 7700k is better than Ryzen, in 1080p with a 1080ti, the fps difference is in the high range. I'm not sure if the fps difference matters at all, to me it doesn't of course. I didn't get the 1080ti to play at 1080p(I wonder if anyone does), and at 1440p 144hz the difference is quite minimal. So it is for any other res if you are GPU bound.

The myth that Ryzen is bad for gaming was started with early reviews on motherboards that had early bios versions and didn't clock well on RAM. Not to mention it was compared to 5+ghz overclocked 7700k which needs a water cooler and is not guaranteed. Even then at 1440p the difference is minimal to nonexistent. This happens in 1080p too with a GTX 970. The only case that 7700k is ahead of Ryzen is in 1080p with a 1080ti (guessing not many play at 1080p with a 1080ti) and even then it is mostly a 10-20fps difference in the range of 120fps+.
 
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Finally someone who know's his stuff...... I think many people should re look at their benchmarks with the Ryzen 7 1700 too. Since the new updates came out for higher memory support and game patches I think Ryzen has plenty of potential to keep up with the Intel I7's. Like he said, even if the FPS is lower, it's still in the high range and somehow the Ryzen chips look buttery smooth compared to the Intels
 
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I didn't mean to give you a thumbs up; REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE BY REAL USERS
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3647vs3917

Is funny how according to thousands of real users at single core speed the Core i7 Or core i5's are 34% faster than the Ryzen 7 and guess what benefits from strong single core speed? you guessed right, "GAMES", most games benefit more from strong cores than weaker multi cores. Or every gamer including myself we all would be running any of the inlel's 16-36 core xeons clocked at 1.5GHZ. But we always get those people talking nonsense or been fanboys. Remember this comparison is using the Core i7 7700K a $349 chip vs the Ryzen 7 1800x $499 price tag. For just "GAMING" the core i5 7600K is a far better chip when compared to the double the price Ryzens 7's
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That website is advertising material not real world benchmarks. It is heavily biased and has information that is quite irrelevant. Even in your final chart the diffrence is only 4%, with a 1080ti at 1080p, which means in all other scenarios they are the same in gaming, and 1700 wipes the floor with 7700k in everything other than gaming.

hint: in all benchmark software and games the single core performance is within 10-15%, the figure of 34% is just a wet dream that intel had. It is not real.

Your other benchmarks are as I said, are before patches and are with a 1080ti at 1080p, and even then the difference is minimal in most. What's your point on linking a benchmark of the ashes before the patch?

Yeah sure, but playing at 1080p with a 1080ti and not maxing out the detail settings, and not updating your bios and game. That is not something people do in real world.
Even if you play at 1080p with a 1080ti on medium detail, the fps difference is in a range that doesn't matter, so going with the 8 core is the smarter choice especially since in games of 2016 and later the gap is just a few few showing what we are heading towards.

 
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:no: since when user benchmark is not real??????? They don't advertise anything. You literally have no idea of what you are talking about. Userbenchmark is a benchmark software used by (real) millions of people across the world. The data we see there is only uploaded by real users across the world.:ange: 2560X1440 @EXTREME PRESET SITTINGS IS NOT HIGH?.@Higher resolutions you wont notice any difference because the bottleneck is on the GPU but at lower resolutions where the GPU can push the sittings to the limit, that's when we can notice the difference btween CPU's.:D So you are saying that Here @tom'sHARDWARE nobody knows anything? and the benchmarks we have are pointless:lol:
http://wccftech.com/ryzen-gaming-benchmarks-roundup/
 
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