Worth getting a 144hz Monitor with my Specs?

HarryGRGamer · Jun 13, 2017

Hello everyone.

So I'm currently aiming to buy a 144hz Monitor. to replace my old 60hz one. but I'm having second thoughts

Mostly it's because of my Specs. and I'm not sure if my Rig can handle modern FPS titles or anything else at 100fps at least for a smooth experience. (Medium Settings)

I'm sure for one Game though and that's CS:GO which superseeds 144fps (300-250)

Plus the Monitor I'm aiming for. it doesn't have G-Sync with it. which I heard is a disadvantage getting a 144hz monitor without G-Sync. (Not sure if it's true though)

Should I just go for it. and Enable Half-Adaptive Sync or something?

My Specs:
CPU: I7-3770
GPU:GTX 970
RAM: 8GB
2 hdd's. one SSD

And I'm planning to buy either the ASUS VG248QE . or the AOC G2460PF (Which has a Free-Sync option. but it doesn't matter to me. as long as it works.

) Both of them cost around 270€ here in Greece

Thanks for all your help in advance. looking forward to your answers!

jimmyEatWord · Jun 13, 2017

no , unless you are also upgrading your graphics card and intend to play 4k , csgo is not worth a new monitor !

HarryGRGamer · Jun 13, 2017

jimmyEatWord :

I think you've misread the thread. I don't think there are affordable 4K 144hz monitors at this moment (At least for me). It's not even standard. I've seen people have 1440p one's though. but not 4K. Also I'm not planning to buy this monitor just to play CSGO, I mean I wouldn't mind to because it helps with your Aim accuracy, but no I'm looking to play Modern titles (As said above.)

JackNaylorPE · Jun 13, 2017

The VG248QE was released just as G-Sync was breaking and it was the first G-Sync capable monitor..

http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/list-of-gsync-monitors/
http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/upgrade-walkthrough/

But as the "upgrade kit" was expensive, it wasn't a vet popular item and was discontinued.

You 970 is way more than enough for most games at 1080p

Comparing G-Sync and Freesync is like comparing 2 SUVs and calling the "the same" is like calling two SUVs "the same" when one has 2WD and the other 4WD. G-Sync is like the vehicle that can go off rod and not get stuck in the snow. G-Sync comes with a hardware module that lets you switch to ULMB. With a G-Sync monitor, you'd use G-Sync from say 30 - 70 fps and ULMB at 70+ fps. Looking at your CSGO results, you'd be using ULMB ... which is basically "Lightboost" a motion bur reduction technology that strobes the monitors backlight ... world great ... watch the digital clock video on the site.

http://www.blurbusters.com/easy-lightboost-toastyx-strobelight/

And you can do ULMB on the VG248QE. Simply download the toastystrobelight utility

jimmyEatWord · Jun 13, 2017

sorry but the refresh rate of the monitor is not worth it your gpu produces the actual fps not the monitor

HarryGRGamer · Jun 13, 2017

JackNaylorPE :

I actually never heard about this. I'll search Youtube Videos as well. and yeah I heard about the "Upgrade kit" but now it's not available. I think it's interesting if I end up buying the ASUS one and not the AOC. it will help even just a bit!

Thanks a lot!

gasaraki · Jun 13, 2017

Jimmyeatworld plz stop giving advice. None of what you said in this thread is correct.

@HarryGRGamer
Don't get a freesync monitor if you have a nvidia card. The freesync won't work with nvidia cards and g-sync won't work with AMD cards.
Don't get 4K monitors for gaming because you will need a top of the line video card and cpu to maintain playable frames.
Freesync and G-Sync monitors both help even if your frames never hit 144fps. The monitors sync the frames all the way down to around 45fps (depends on the monitor).
If you plan on sticking with nvidia, get a gsync monitor.

James Mason · Jun 13, 2017

G-sync will cap your frames at 144fps, but if you're playing CSGO, you probably still want to see that 300fps counter in the corner (even if it's pointless)
But seeing 144 frames out of 300 is much better than 60.
So you can get the AOC and leave the syncing options off, and just let it run at 144hz.

JackNaylorPE · Jun 13, 2017

HarryGRGamer :

I am not an AOC fan, look at newegg and compare the number of users who bought the VG248QE with anything else. As for youtube, anyone w/ a few bucks to spend can make a video, that hardly qualifies them as an expert.

For valid reviews, visit tftcentral

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews_index.htm

The Asus VG248QE and the BenQ equivalent (both have same panel) are the standards by which all others are judged.

And again, if you do wind up with a G-Sync monitor, for CS:GP by all means do not forget to turn it off and use ULMB. Nobody says it better than tftcentral **the source** for all things monitor related.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/variable_refresh.htm

G-sync modules also support a native blur reduction mode dubbed ULMB (Ultra Low Motion Blur). This allows the user to opt for a strobe backlight system if they want, in order to reduce perceived motion blur in gaming. It cannot be used at the same time as G-sync since ULMB operates at a fixed refresh rate only, but it's a useful extra option for these gaming screens. Of course since G-sync/ULMB are an NVIDIA technology, it only works with specific G-sync compatible NVIDIA graphics cards. While you can still use a G-sync monitor from an AMD/Intel graphics card for other uses, you can't use the actual G-sync or ULMB functions.

It should be noted that the real benefits of G-sync really come into play when viewing lower frame rate content, around 45 - 60fps typically delivers the best results compared with Vsync on/off. At consistently higher frame rates as you get nearer to 144 fps the benefits of G-sync are not as great, but still apparent. There will be a gradual transition period for each user where the benefits of using G-sync decrease, and it may instead be better to use the ULMB feature included, which is not available when using G-sync. Higher end gaming machines might be able to push out higher frame rates more consistently and so you might find less benefit in using G-sync. The ULMB could then help in another very important area, helping to reduce the perceived motion blur caused by LCD displays.

Slumy__57 · Jun 13, 2017

Not sure what Jimmy is on about, but my recommendation to you would be to play some of your games, and see if you're exceeding 60fps in any of them. If you are, I'd say go for the better monitor. Even if you're only getting like 80-90fps, that'll still be an improvement over what you have right now for modern games.

And for older games like CSGO, or any Valve games (L4D, CS Source, HL2, etc.) you'll have much better experience with the higher refresh rate. I personally would buy the better monitor simply because of CSGO. It's night and day comparing 60hz to 144hz when it comes to CSGO, and if you play any competitive at all, you'll be loving life with the better monitor.

EDIT: The 970 is not more than enough for anything in 1080p, I have a 1060 6gb (10-15% better than the 970) and I definitely struggle in some newer titles. Obviously I'm not unable to run anything, but there are definitely games where I'm not seeing a steady 60fps.

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about G-sync. It is definitely a nice feature, but it'll cost you. And it seems like you're not wanting to throw a crazy amount of money at this. I'd just get a well-reviewed, good brand 144hz monitor for a good price, and leave the framerate unlocked while in-game.

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