Liquid cooler failed... considering switching to air cooling

dakrazeedude

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Hello,
Some time ago, my liquid cooler's pump failed (Arctic Liquid Freezer 240).
Since then I've been looking for a new one, yet I'm deterred from liquid cooling again as this is my first kit and it failed very early (~8 months of use under perfectly normal conditions).
At first I was looking to swap it with another liquid cooler, yet I often encounter many other people complaining about kits failing early from nearly all brands - and since the cooler failure caused me a lot of trouble that's a risk I'd like to avoid.

On the other hand, I'm not sure an air cooler would meet my performance demands - particularly due to my case limitations (Corsair Air Carbide 240 - up to 120mm cooler height).
Eventually, I can't decide with either going for a C-type air cooler (I've had my eye on Noctua's C14S) or with another liquid cooler (thinking about the Corsair H110i or Gamerstorm Captain 240EX).
Since I'm encountering plenty of experienced system builders here, I'd be glad if you could help me answer a few questions:

1.How much of a performance hit am I taking by switching to an air cooler? If it's only a few degrees that wouldn't be too bad, so long as it meets my needs (to clarify - I will soon be buying a Ryzen 1700X, and I am hoping for a 3.9-4.0Ghz overclock). I've read many reviews but the results vary wildly.

2.Do liquid coolers really pose that much of a risk - with either failures or leaks - or did I just land a bad sample?

3.I've read about complaints towards 240mm liquid coolers being much louder than my previous kit. Can anyone owning one of these kits weight in on the noise levels? I heard the fans on the Corsair kit, for example, are particularly noisy, but I couldn't figure out whether it is relative to other kits or just plain loud.

I'd also love to hear your reccomendations regarding suitable coolers both air and liquid. I've no particular budget in mind so long as the cooler is worth it.

Thank you in advance!

(Note: I currently own an Intel i5-4670K, which I had running in 1.312V until the kit failed, yet I also had it a good while with 1.248V. If anyone has a similar platform and/or voltage and can comment on cooling performance it will really help me get a clear picture!)



 
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You could look into what EK and SWIFTECH are offering.

These are much better units than what has been discussed here so far.

EK says it has a international warranty, for what its worth IDK.

If I were you I'd buy a new case and a NH-D15 or similar. Make sure the case you choose has good air flow and get fans to insure flow. Much less to go wrong, and should cool your current cpu or a new ryzen chip very well.

The case I use is a Define S with three noctua 140's intake and a single noctua 140 exhaust.

For what it's worth I run a 77000k @4.9 and 1.34 vcore, playing TW3 temps will hit mid to high 60's C.

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Most of 240mm or less AIO water coolers are worse than good air coolers, not only in performance but more louder, have worse lifespan.
If you can fit noctua d15 or d15s then they will cool same or better than your 240mm and will produce much lower noise output. And will last long if not forever.
Examples of other cooler, be quiet dark rock 3, cryorig R1 are good coolers that will compete with 240mm AIO.
 


The case can't fit any of those tho.
 

dakrazeedude

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Hi and thanks for the answers,
Regarding warranty - in my country warranty is done through the local seller, which replaced it with a Coolermaster Seidon 240V, and I'm not pleased with the performance (Currenty on an i5-4670K), not to mention one of the fans it came with is defective. I'm currently working to replace it but not much hope there, hence this thread.
As for the big air coolers - none of them do really fit. Should no other suitable option come up I can replace the case but I'd rather not...
Can anyone comment on how reliable the H110i (or other similar coolers of course) really is, and how loud? I'd hate to have another one go bad on me since warranty is so problematic where I live...
 

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This one will fit and it's pretty good : https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8pgPxr/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd9l
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Question: What Country is that?
 

dakrazeedude

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Hi and thanks for the answers!
first, regarding overclocking - I know it's not that much of a difference, but tinkering with an 8-core proccessor has been on my list quite a while :)
I'm planning on keeping it for a long time, so it's an option I'd like to have regardless.
As for the warranty, I live in Israel. Hardware stores aren't abundant here, and service is usually lacking.
And finally, I do think the Ryzen will be cooler despite the higher TDP (as far as I know Haswells are notorious for running hot...), but I'd still like to know if said cooler can handle a good overclock.
So what would you reccomend? should I stick with liquid cooling or switch back to air?
 


Wish I could be of assistance of who will ship to Israel... I don't know of anyone close, not even among your more hostile neighbors. It seems odd to me that a vendor would have the discretion to swap brand and model in a warranty. Usually here, it's swap for the same... especially during the first 30 days or whatever they wish to cover it for, when the vendor covers it. After that it usually is covered by the manufacturer.

To be honest, I'm on my second AiO myself due to pump failure. I don't expect to have this replacement die anytime soon although it is still possible. If every AiO unit failed fairly quickly, warranty or not, the market for them would die. (and manufacturers wouldn't offer warranties in upwards of six years. I own a Cryorig A40.)
 

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I've a friend who will soon be staying at the US, and he will be buying for me - that's one of the reasons I'm upgrading as prices are substantially better there.
As for the warranty the vendors do swap for the same, except in my case they stopped selling the kit, hence this whole mess :/
With that in mind, I'd love to hear your suggestions
 

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to be honest, the h110i gt is the biggest regret I have ever bought myself in, it cools ok but comes with noise and annoying softwares , and it broke on me recently only 2 years in, remember the warranty is cover for up to 5 years, buy a good air cooler, you might save a lot of time and frustration that way, plus air coolers are reliable and cheap to replace, even though im still cover in warranty, I think ill rma it to just have a spare cooler while i will buy a cryorig r1 to replace that. Very disappointed in the product, insanely loud and expensive.
 

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You could look into what EK and SWIFTECH are offering.

These are much better units than what has been discussed here so far.

EK says it has a international warranty, for what its worth IDK.

If I were you I'd buy a new case and a NH-D15 or similar. Make sure the case you choose has good air flow and get fans to insure flow. Much less to go wrong, and should cool your current cpu or a new ryzen chip very well.

The case I use is a Define S with three noctua 140's intake and a single noctua 140 exhaust.

For what it's worth I run a 77000k @4.9 and 1.34 vcore, playing TW3 temps will hit mid to high 60's C.
 
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Exactly...

Running my 7700K at 4.8 GHz @ 1.234 (1.284 MAX) and it stays in the 60's when gaming and low to mid 70's in Prime 95 .

Same NH D15.

Master Case 5 Pro here, 2x 140mm Intake and 1x 140mm Exhaust

Will never get the AIO thing personally.... I think people watched too many YT videos...

With a good air cooler, no worries.