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catfishhoward

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I have a program that will only operate in 32-bit window 98, windows xp or window 7 only.

My xp is old and I would like to keep it as a spare and build and new Windows 7 Profession 32-bit and would like to get any advice if I might be over doing it or if there is a way to get more speed. I don't do any gaming, just auto-cad, home video editing and web surfing with multiple programs and windows open at once, I also plan on dual monitors. Here is what I came up with.
CPU ----------------Intel - Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard------Intel - DH61BEB3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory------------G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage------------Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card--------EVGA - GeForce GT 710 2GB Video Card
Power Supply-----EVGA - 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive------Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Microsoft - Windows 7 Professional SP1 OEM 32-bit
whole system $620.00
 
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If you're not familiar with VMs, then you should consider a more user friendly solution like VMware Player. If you do, read this thread https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1776394-troubleshooting-win-10-parallel-port-dongle-issue Make sure the parallel port is configured in the host OS before you install VMware Player. I use Workstation (not free) on Windows Server 2012 R2, but Player is similar. The motherboard that I use has a parallel port; all I have to do is configure the VM to use the physical parallel port.
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Have you considered a dual-boot system? Windows 7 32 bit and Windows 10 64 bit? That way you could increase the amount of RAM and have a more modern system for current apps, and the old system for your program that will only run on a 32 bit system. Are you sure the program will not run on a 64 bit rig or a more current OS? Perhaps in compatibility mode.
 
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not sure about a dual-boot but my computer guy said it must be window 7 or older and 32-bit and I have a window 10 and to be honest I haven't been happy with it (it's slower than my xp) and been using my xp more which I need to save it as a spare and build a new one.

My xp is fast enough for me but I would like to get a little more speed if possible (current xp - Intel Core 2 quad Q6600 2.4 GHz and 2.75 ram) but I don't wont to spend more money for parts that are over kill.
 
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virtual machine and dual boot is a little above my knowledge but I'll look into it, but if my program doesn't work I would have to start all over. I want to open auto-cad on one monitor and the old dos program on the other monitor at the same time? so if the old dos program have to run in 32-bit than I don't know if there is any advantage of 64-bit?
 
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I want to open auto-cad on one monitor and the old dos program on the other monitor at the same time? so if the old dos program have to run in 32-bit than I don't know if there is any advantage of 64-bit because won't auto-cad have to be in 32-bit at the same time?


 
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could I do a dual-boot on window 7 32-bit and 64-bit, don't like window 10.

 
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Video Editing needs more system memory than most applications. I suggest 16GB for light editing.

With 32-bit Windows you are limited to about 2.8GB of system memory (with 1GB video card) regardless of whether you have more installed. With 2GB video card you're limited to 1.8GB. (just take 4096MB- 200MB - video RAM size).

32-bit OS is really not ideal. As said, go with DUAL BOOT if necessary.

Curious what PROGRAM is so important that you'd have to create a sub-optimal PC around it.

I also see no reason for that video card. Just use the iGPU in the CPU though I'd build a more modern computer.
 
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The old programs (SU DATA surveying program) runs in DOS so I think that's why the it has to be 32-bit, does that make since or maybe why my computer guy said 32-bit.

 
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I happen to have that same video card on Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit rig with 8 GB of RAM. My system reserved is only 2.4 MB. So I assume on a 32 bit system the system reserved will also be low with that card.

What is the specific program that will only run on Win 7 or lower 32 bit?
 
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Program in DOS?
You can run DOS in 64-bit Windows 10. That doesn't mean your old program will work.

I suggest you start by giving us the name of the program.

Here's an EXAMPLE build only, so it's not necessarily ideal. The CPU is dual-core, hyperthreaded but probably still about the same processing power of the i5-2400. This allows to have a more modern motherboard with SATA6gbps connectors etc which can also upgrade to an i7-7700 for example.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLp3Gf

We need to nail down the EXACT usage and BUDGET for your PC (and if the budget includes Windows). Two different versions of Windows add a lot to the cost.

If you want to GAME you need something like a GTX1050Ti graphics card. If not, just stick with the integrated graphics in the CPU. We may also want to consider RYZEN CPU's (AMD build) but I'm not quite comfortable with understanding your needs.
 
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Maybe I'm mistaken but 64bit os aren't strictly 64bit. You might have to go with an older flavor of windows to get msdos (or actual dos) running but 32bit programs generally run natively on 64bit os. They're backward compatible. It wasn't until the past couple years or so that things like browsers offered 64bit versions, they were 32bit and worked just fine.

So long as the specific program works fine on a 32/64bit machine you might be better off with 64bit. That way the program can run in 32bit and while limited to 3.5gb of ram, the entire pc and windows itself won't be restricted to <4gb of ram. You could use 8gb and have memory to run other things on other programs that can make use of it.
 
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C&G Software, su data dos program, 1986-1993, Software set for VGA Graphics?

 
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No GAMING just auto-cad, web surfing and occasional home video editing. $ 600 might be as much as I want to spend just trying to get a new computer to run the C&G program and get a little faster than my current XP which I built back in 2002 +/-.

 
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I never tried it in 64-bit, just what my computer guy said, maybe i'll talk to a I know and see if he has a 32/64bit machine I don't think I do.

 
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The issue probably is 64-bit OS not having support for 16-bit executables that start older applications likely, and NOT a 32-bit vs 64-bit direct compatibility issue.

Most software is 32-bit and runs on modern 64-bit OS just fine.

32-bit Windows has support for 16-bit (not sure if newer versions do).

Again, just give us the name of the program so we can GOOGLE to see how it can be run. It's pointless to keep speculating. If we can do VIRTUAL great. If it needs to be dual-boot W7 32-bit + W10 64-bit then fine.
 
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Software: C&G Software, su data dos program, 1986-1993, Software set for VGA Graphics?
 
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Lets forget all about the 64-bit and say I'm okay with building a new only 32-bit which I've been okay with my XP 32-bit for the last 10 years just trying to get a little faster so I figured the i5 would be the way to go, does the list of parts look compatible with a new Window 7 Profession 32-bit? I've seen some comments say that I don't really need the video card but not sure that the i5 and mother board are the best choices for a 32-bit system.
 
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