Please help (PC upgrade)

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Hi guys, hoping for a response here. I have never used a forums site before, have no idea if I'll even get a response, but it would be much appreciated. I have a question about my pc and what I should upgrade to run larger scaled multiplayer games. I have a decent build but struggle ridiculously running a few games that I really want to play. I'm looking to upgrade but don't know what would fix my problem. I have good internet, and from my knowledge like I said a decent build. (I'm relatively new to pc, so open to any suggestions) But the 2 games my pc struggles with running are PU battlegrounds along with rust (which I can barely even launch half of the time) my problems seem to be a ridiculous lag/jump, spiking fps, and rendering the play area. I assume I need to upgrade my processor, but then wonder if I need a new gpu.

Here is my build:
-970 msi
-960 Nvidia graphics card
-AMD 6500 CPU
-8gb ram
-2 tb hard drive

Thank you guys so much in advance!
 
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There we go. So your FX CPU is 5 years old and it's pretty weak, so it's probably holding you back. If you use MSI afterburner to play games, and display stats while in game, you will probably see a high CPU usuage. With that being said, it is probably time to upgrade. This will mean a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. What's your budget?

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CPU: AMD FX-6350
Vishera 32nm Technology
Ram: 8gb Single channel DDR3 @ 799MHz
Motherboard: MSI 970 (MS-7693) (CPU1)
Graphics: VG245 (1920x1080@60Hz)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 (EVGA)
Storage: 1863GB Seagate ST2000VX
 
There we go. So your FX CPU is 5 years old and it's pretty weak, so it's probably holding you back. If you use MSI afterburner to play games, and display stats while in game, you will probably see a high CPU usuage. With that being said, it is probably time to upgrade. This will mean a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. What's your budget?
 
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Damn! See I knew there was more too it. Just need to get deep in there lol. But I was aiming for about 600$, but might have to expand that a little bit huh lol I want a good set up so I'll put money into it if it's needed. So I need a whole new system is what you're saying? What do u suggest?
 

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I won't be recording or doing any streaming or anything like that. Just gaming but I want to be able to run any game that I come across. I've noticed my pc is a bit slower loading/launching games. But I was always told by my buddies I had a good build and shouldn't have any problems. So I've been confused
 


It's a decent build, but still old. As far as loading, a SSD can take care of that. In fact, all you really have to update is the CPU, motherboard, and RAM. You don't need much. You already have a hard drive, GPU, and a case. So part of the work is done. If you want to breeze through anything, I suggest this:

I threw in a SSD, and you can put some games on it to load much faster than what you are used to. A quad-core will allow you to multi-task as well. Also with new games, you will be able to enjoy those too. Didn't know the power supply you had, but figured it was old as well. Gave you an entry level one. It's not the top of the line quality, but it gets the job done backed by a warranty (3 years i think).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.21 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($106.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $495.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 21:11 EDT-0400
 

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Dude, you are awesome! Thank you so much man, I may have never been able to solve this problem without your help. Really glad I decided to post here, bet hey while you're here I'm curious, I paid 450$ for this whole pc, bad deal or what? Thanks again bro! Helped me a ton
 


This the video I enjoy sharing when it comes to first time builders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2dJvqU2_x4&t=1445s

I would have paid no more than $250, especially consider the age. 5 years ago, maybe $350. But now, no more than $250, and I would try to talk them down as much as possible.
 

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Damn ... lol sucks bro. He was asking 550$ glad I didn't pay that. Some people I knew told me I was getting a steal and lots of people wanted it. What's so conceiving about this build?! Lol but 1 more question for you man, does any of that require software/programs as well?
 
No, everything in this list will have behave on it's own. The motherboard will drivers you need to install.

I did forget to mention that you do need to install Windows. Are you on 7 or 10? If you are on 10, have you kept your updates recent?

Take a look at this for Win7: https://www.howtogeek.com/239815/why-cant-you-move-a-windows-installation-to-another-computer/
Win10: https://www.groovypost.com/howto/transfer-windows-10-license-new-pc/
 

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I actually just upgraded to windows 10 a few days ago hoping maybe that would fix some of my issues thinking maybe that windows 7 might be to out of date to communicate with some files or programs. (Like I said I'm a noob so I may sound stupid) but yes according to windows it updated everything. So I think so lol
 
I agree that the component mainly holding performance back in those games is likely the FX-6350. It's a six-core CPU, and actually only came out about four years ago, but while it still has okay performance in heavily multithreaded software, its performance per core is kind of low, and those games likely rely on high single-threaded performance. There aren't any CPUs available for that motherboard that are much faster though, so an upgrade would require at least a CPU and motherboard. And as was already pointed out, if you're going with the most recent generation of CPUs, you'll also need DDR4 memory.

It would be a good idea to open the case and check what kind of power supply it has, to determine whether it might be worth replacing or not. It should say on the side of the PSU what brand and wattage it is.



Hah! I would disagree with this though. Five years ago, neither the GTX 960 nor the FX-6350 even existed. The 6350 came out in 2013, and the 960 came out in 2015. Five years ago, a computer with those specs would have been far more valuable. Even just a graphics card with similar performance to a GTX 960 would have been $400 in 2012. : P Looking at today's prices, I don't think $450 was necessarily "bad" either, although perhaps not ideal for gaming. And are we even talking USD here? I notice the dollar sign is after the value, which might indicate to me that the OP is in a country other than the US, with different pricing and exchange rates.

In any case, going by USD, a GTX 960 is generally faster than a 1050 Ti, which is around a $150 graphics card. And while an FX-6350 might not be ideal for newer games, it is still a $100 processor new, and the motherboard is over $75. Then around $75 for a 2TB hard drive, and another $50 for 8GB of DDR3, and you're looking at $450 right there. Add in a case, power supply and Windows license, and a computer with those components would probably cost close to $650 to build new today. So I wouldn't say that $450 was necessarily an outlandish price. And that's without any components like keyboard, monitor, and so on, which weren't mentioned, and I'm assuming weren't included. I highly doubt you could build a better PC than that for $450 though, at the very least.

 


You are correct. Honestly, I was just thinking FX series as a whole. You can build a new PC for $450 (sans Windows) easily, and it should beat it and be able to handle the games OP wants.
 
It seems like it would be a good enough selection, unless you would rather pay less, or are willing to pay more.

I don't think you ever mentioned what power supply you have though. If it happens to be a relatively decent one, you could re-use that instead of buying another. You should be able to open the side of the case and see what model number the PSU has written on it to find out which one it is.
 

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