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poseidon7902

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Been 6 years since I built a pc and I'm not into keeping up with the hardware nearly as much as I used to be. Purchase timeline is in the next week.
Below are the use cases for this:
1. Gaming: I'm more a console gamer, but I do play on the PC. More-so games like Civilization, Diablo etc... most modern shooters I'll do on the console.
2. Work/School: Published apps/desktops as well as running office suite etc...

I probably did overkill for those two needs. I have a budget of 1500 (though the PC I built is a little over that). I'm good with going cheaper as long as the components won't be strained to do the above and will last like my current PC did.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QVtsQV
 
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Hellfire13
Spending more money does not always necessarily get you better value. Look at the build i gave you again. There are certain reasons why i chose what i chose.
The 1600x is just a OC version of 1600 and if you can OC the 1600, you can get it to run at the 1600x speeds. Not to mention that it comes with a stock cooler which is good enough for moderate OC.
The Tomahawk board is a great value unit, specially with its XMP compatibility. Doing manual inputs can be dicey if you do not know your stuff... https://us.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/386379-396951
The 960 Evo is good enough for its price to performance ratio. A faster NVME drive doesnt contribute anything to gaming... http://www.pcgamer.com/best-nvme-ssds/
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Hellfire13

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This should be good enough for your purpose. The reason i gave you Ryzen is because it will last you longer with better upgrade paths...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1394.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-16 14:18 EDT-0400



 
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poseidon7902

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Back in the day I used to be a hardcore AMD chip fan, then they seemed to fall off. Has that changed? I'm not sold on just getting the i7 because it's an i7, but more my lack of knowledge of how well AMD is doing now.
 
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Hellfire13

Hellfire13

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Its doing awesome. The new AMD platform has closed the gap with Intel. Although in games Intel still rules, lets say 155 fps, AMD gives you somewhere around 130fps. Where it shines is when you are multitasking along with the games or using softwares and programs where multithreaded performance is involved. Intel will drop to somewhere around 100 fps in that scenario where as AMD still maintains the 130fps along with doing the other tasks. To be honest, above 60to 80 fps, the difference is not even visible to the naked eye unless you have a counter on your screen. Also AMD has better upgrade path than Intel.
 
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poseidon7902

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Thanks for the explanation. Especially considering I'm not pushing high graphic games I'm not all that concerned with the FPS. I'll see what other options I see come up, but I like what you put forward better than my educated guesses.

 
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Hellfire13

Hellfire13

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Spending more money does not always necessarily get you better value. Look at the build i gave you again. There are certain reasons why i chose what i chose.
The 1600x is just a OC version of 1600 and if you can OC the 1600, you can get it to run at the 1600x speeds. Not to mention that it comes with a stock cooler which is good enough for moderate OC.
The Tomahawk board is a great value unit, specially with its XMP compatibility. Doing manual inputs can be dicey if you do not know your stuff... https://us.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/386379-396951
The 960 Evo is good enough for its price to performance ratio. A faster NVME drive doesnt contribute anything to gaming... http://www.pcgamer.com/best-nvme-ssds/
 
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poseidon7902

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Thanks for the information. Some answers to your statements to see if it changes your opinion at all.

I won't be OC the chip as I don't have the knowledge or experience to feel confident that I won't break anything. Your point stands though as I don't know if the $50 extra for the 'x' chip is worth the .4 ghz.

I'll trust your input on the board. I wish I had more time to learn about the technology, but at the rate that I do build a new PC, it's kind of a waste as I just don't have the time and effort anymore to invest in that research anymore.

I went with the Pro drive strictly because it was cheaper than the original one that you highlighted and in comparing the stats I saw faster transfer rates.

All that said, thanks for the help. I'm going to make your adjustments and get this ordered.
 
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Hellfire13

Hellfire13

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OC is not that difficult if you dive into it with a little bit of attention. But I can understand your apprehension. In that case the 1600x should be fine. Its as you said, why pay so much extra(extra price + cooler) for so little improvement over the 1600.
The board is pretty good for its price point and its very popular with Ryzen builders for its quality and features. You can always go for a more expensive x370 board if you want more stable OC and a few extra features here and there, but i dont find it justified, specially at the price point.
If the Pro drive is cheaper than the Evo, i would definitely grab that anyday. :)
 
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