Wireless works fine, Ethernet cuts in and out, or doesn't work at all.

CHeinz

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Ok, unfortunately I've been forced into making this account in the hopes that someone can help me solve an issue I've seen all over TH threads and various other tech help sites, but I've reached a point where I have no clue how to proceed. As the thread title states, my ethernet connection either gets terrible latency (5000-10000ms) or just cuts out completely. However, on wireless, the connection is fine. I'll try to be as transparent as possible in this initial post so as to make it clear where I stand at this moment. Now I wouldn't say I'm incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to networking, so any help would be appreciated.

(No overclocking or anything like that)
CPU: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3500 Mhz, 3 Core(s)
Motherboard: M5A78L-m/usb3
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 200
12GB Ram
725W PSU
OS: Windows 10 Home(64bit)

So I'll start by explaining the problem and all solutions I've attempted so far. I recently started using a Netgear Powerline 1000 adapter to utilize a wired connection to my desktop, which is far away from the router upstairs. For about a week, it worked perfectly, until I noticed the connection start cutting in and out a lot. However, the wireless worked fine. After a bunch of scouring forums for solutions, I discovered how to ping my loopback (127.0.0.1) essentially, to test my NIC. At this point I was using the onboard adapter, so I bought a new Gigabit Ethernet PCI Adapter and installed it. Now, my ethernet connection will either cut out completely, or I'll get terrible latency. After installing this new ethernet adapter, pinging my loopback came back with no packet loss, and less than 1ms response time for each packet sent. However, when I ping my router's IP, it'll either get terrible latency(4000+) or simply "request timed out". When this happens, windows troubleshooter most often delivers "DNS server not responding", but it also occasionally would say "Invalid IP Configuration" or "Your computer appears to be correctly configured, but the device or resource (DNS server) is not responding". I have all my adapter settings set to automatically retrieve IP and DNS addresses, and there's no issue with wireless. I've narrowed down the issue to my desktop, as all other devices in the house have no issues, and I know it's not the ethernet cable as I've tested multiple on several devices, they work fine. I'm almost positive it's not the powerline adapter, as I've tested the exact outlet and cable by plugging into my laptop, which receives perfect connection, yet as soon as I switch it to my desktop, it starts to fail. One last interesting detail, I've noticed that when I boot my computer, in the first few minutes before it's had ample time to boot, I've run ping tests to my router, and even forced a trial of 100 pings, and I got 0% packet loss, 15ms average response time. Obviously, this is exactly how the connection should be, but five minutes later, I'll run the same test and get either insane latency or request timed out. This led me think more along the lines of software/firewall issue, but any input will be appreciated. I'll list all the solutions I've already tried, none of which have seemed to fix it.

Power cycle (powered off and unplugged router and computer for extended period)
Reinstalled adapter drivers
Updated BIOS
Altered duplex and speed settings on adapter
ipconfig release renew
flushdns registerdns
netsh winsock reset

Enabled and disabled adapter(s) (wireless adapter is disabled, only functioning ethernet adapter enabled)
Temporarily disabled firewall
Uninstalled common problem software (like Bonjour)
Virus and malware scanned
Tried a separate adapter
Disabled IPv6

As far as I can remember at this moment these are all of the potential solutions I've already tried, and none have solved this issue, any suggestions would be appreciated, or even help as to how to better diagnose and pinpoint the issue. I've tried tracert but almost every response has timed out when attempting that as well.

Edit: I'm not sure how important this is, but I've also come to realize that if I set my speed and duplex on my adapter to anything but auto-negotiate, I get "Unidentified Network" and even if it IS set to auto negotiate, the pc will boot up with the right network, however if the adapter is reset, even with the auto-negotiate setting it will revert to "Identifying network..." until it eventually settles onto unidentified network. Should any screenshots of my pc's services or adapter settings or command center logs be required I would be happy to do so if it helps at all.

Cheers
Cameron
 
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BuddhaSkoota

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This part of your post stuck out to me. I would have suggested that the problem has to be with the powerline adapters, but the statement regarding the tests after boot might point to something else.

Have you checked the network activity on this PC when you have this problem? I usually use Task Manager or Resource Monitor to view network activity and processes using the connection. It could be a background process or updater that is having difficulty.
 

CHeinz

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Whoops, I actually always have task manager open when trying to diagnose it, but I've only been using it to monitor packet activity and forgot to use it to actually monitor potential problem programs. However, now I am well and truly confused. To temporarily be able to actually use my desktop I opened it back up and replaced my new nic with the old wireless pci adapter again, but I just plugged in the ethernet cable to my onboard adapter (the supposed original issue, which used to give "request timed out" when pinging 127.0.0.1, but now comes back flawless when doing the exact same test) and I"m getting perfect connection, without disabling the wifi adapter. So essentially I just 1. used wifi again 2. plugged in ethernet cable without disabling wifi connection 3. let ethernet take over as the dominate connection by default and now it works. Perhaps it was the new nic's issue after all, even after many fresh driver installs? I'm certainly not mad it's just working but I'd like to know why this just magically started up again lol

Edit: Spoke way too soon, about 10 minutes after it had been working great I noticed speeds drop from average 4.1mbps to around 0-400 kbps. Scanned through task manager and didn't see anything out of the ordinary in terms of programs and networking, everything but chrome was negligible and it seemed to be running like it always is and should be. (Thank you for the suggestion though)

First response was right after plugging cable in, next two were about a minute apart 10 minutes later.

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14393]
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C:\Users\Owner>ping 192.168.1.254

Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 5ms, Average = 4ms

C:\Users\Owner>ping 192.168.1.254

Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=2696ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=1480ms TTL=255
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1480ms, Maximum = 2696ms, Average = 2088ms

C:\Users\Owner>ping 192.168.1.254

Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=496ms TTL=255
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=2613ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=1497ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 496ms, Maximum = 2613ms, Average = 1535ms

C:\Users\Owner>
 

BuddhaSkoota

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I would honestly have to recommend taking the powerline adapters out of the loop to be absolutely certain that they are not the cause of the problem (understanding that they appear to work fine on a different computer). If you can find a way to get the PC connected directly to the router, that may help isolate the issue by eliminating those components.

I may have missed it, but have you tried different cables? It's important to eliminate those as well.

I might suggest running a ping test from the router to the PC (some routers have this functionality), or connecting the PC directly to a another PC and performing some connectivity tests.
 
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CHeinz

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Oops, been a bit busy, but I'll try this today and edit once I've narrowed things down a bit.

EDIT: Been a long time since posting here, got busy and grew complacent with the adapters just functioning as a wifi booster, but finally got the computer set up downstairs very temporarily just to troubleshoot for my own peace of mind. I may have been wrong, as the ethernet appears to be working perfectly now that I'm hooked straight into the router, tested with both the cables I use for the powerline adapters so it may very well be that the adapters are the issue, or the house's wiring isn't very compatible. Pinging my IP comes back perfect even at a higher testing rate of 50. One last inquiry however, I'm testing this on a very basic set up, so I'm using only one monitor, a keyboard, and a mouse. Usually my entire set up would have a second monitor, my speaker system, one of two audio interfaces plugged in, and an external hard drive hooked up on top of this ultra basic set up. TL;DR: Is there any chance that any of these other hardware devices could potentially be the issue, or is it safe to assume it's simply the adapters?
 

CHeinz

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Totally forgot to revisit this but I'll say now, a year after the fact, it was simply the adapters themselves, as I instead bought a new wireless adapter from this century and installed it and everything works great, it was just strange that the adapters worked briefly and sporadically instead of totally failing or totally functioning, they lasted only a couple weeks it turns out.