Building new rig

Abhishek_113

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Well my last build was in 2013

I don't do overclocking or rendering . My builds are for pure gaming and movie watching purposes .

So far I've purchased

Cabinet -Nzxt s340 elite
Psu-rm750 corsair
Gfx -Asus strix rog 1070


Now here comes my dilemma which Mobo and cpu to go with

Right now I'm gaming on 1080p but I am not getting good fps with i5 3570 I feel I think it's bottlenecking my 1070

Also I think ive gone overbudget so I'm really confused
Earlier I was going for i5 7600 or ryzen 1600 .

Please help me

Ps- sorry for wrong English if any .

Edit : I have future plans to upgrade my screen to 4k monitors when hdR monitors come to my country .
 
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Well that's the kicker... In gaming you have 2 different types of games, that which use high IPC, single thread speeds, and those that use multiple core count where IPC isn't as important as thread count. Games like Shadow of Mordor and CS:Go and skyrim are heavy single thread games and even a i5-7500 will top a Ryzen 1800x there, if by only a few fps. However, games like GTA:V, Starwars Battlefront, BF1 etc are heavy multiple core usage, and a r5-1600 stomps on even an i7-7700k at times. So personal gaming habits will say a lot for just what cpu is better equipped.
As is, Ryzen cpus have equitable IPC to their Haswell counterparts, so kabylake and skylake cpus only enjoy higher IPC for a limited amount of applications, anything using...
To keep costs down I would go for an i5-7500 with a B250 mobo. This will not bottleneck the 1070 and the i5-7500 beats out the Ryzen 5 1600 for gaming with faster single core and quad core speeds.

Shame you bought the RM750 already, it is a great PSU but it's more than you need. A good 500W will do just fine. If you can return it without penalty then do so and save some money.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7WRxY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7WRxY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.21 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB STRIX Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $270.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-18 22:47 EDT-0400
 

Abhishek_113

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The thing was I read about it here only that since earlier generation of gtx was a power hogger so it's best to get 650 atleast . So just to be on safer side I went for 750
If in future I need to sli another 1070
I think 750 would be enough
As for returning it I think it's been a month don't think retailer would return it now .

I5-7500

How much of a future proof investment is this .
Also intel stock cooler would be enough or should I get kraken x41 AIO

Ps: I hate intel stock coolers

One of the reasons I was going for ryzen 1600 wraith cooler looks and I feel is better
 

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Well that's the kicker... In gaming you have 2 different types of games, that which use high IPC, single thread speeds, and those that use multiple core count where IPC isn't as important as thread count. Games like Shadow of Mordor and CS:Go and skyrim are heavy single thread games and even a i5-7500 will top a Ryzen 1800x there, if by only a few fps. However, games like GTA:V, Starwars Battlefront, BF1 etc are heavy multiple core usage, and a r5-1600 stomps on even an i7-7700k at times. So personal gaming habits will say a lot for just what cpu is better equipped.
As is, Ryzen cpus have equitable IPC to their Haswell counterparts, so kabylake and skylake cpus only enjoy higher IPC for a limited amount of applications, anything using more than 4 cores, that Ryzen cpu is gonna stomp all over equitable Intel.
Gotta say, the differences between the 7500 few fps lead in a few games, vrs the 1600's domination in just about everything else is a poor match up. For all around performance, the i5-7500 comes up short. Any OC applied to the Ryzen will easily make up the difference in single thread speeds, as will running high speed ram, which can give @20% performance boost to the cpu, bringing Haswell IPC to kabylake levels, roughly.

Op plans on 4k one day. That's going to require a Vega gpu or a gtx1080ti, either of which probably won't run with any reliability on any 500w psu. The RM 750 is fine, simply means it'll not run stressed at any point, therefore running almost totally silent and quite cool for its ability.

Personally, I'd go with the Ryzen R5 1600, decent B350 mobo or X370 if it has the connectivity you are looking for, and some G-skill Trident Z or RipJaws V 3000/3200 and an easy OC to 3.8GHz (easily done by the stock cooler, and basically you'll be running at i5-7500 IPC/ability in single thread heavy apps, yet have 12 available threads (beating the i5's 4 possible threads like a red-headed step child) for anything heavily core bound. It solves any possibility of cpu bottleneck due to thread limitations or IPC limitations, and can handle a gtx1080ti at 4k, whereas the i5 is going to suffer badly.
 
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Abhishek_113

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Ok so for ryzen 1600 I have chosen
Asus strix b350
I just love Asus and strix have the same 1070 strix as well
And for i5 7600
Asus strix b250f

Now which combo should I go for
Intel or ryzen

I am playing GTA V skyrim , have preorder new shadow of mordor far cry. 5. ROTR
Hopefully red dead redemption 2 will come too