Lag if I dont do anything on the pc

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This problem occurred only today.
When I play a game (World of Warcraft) and I do stuff in game my fps i normal (60+) when I stay in inactive and dont touch the keyboard or anything and 10 seconds later the fps drops to about 5fps. Not only in games but anywhere on the computer. When I watch on youtube and I am moving my mouse around it will work but when I dont touch anything the video will lag.( My ping is around 20ms in game)
My specs:
GPU: Asus Geforce Gt 730
CPU: Amd A10 7700k 4C 3.7ghz
PSU: Corsair cx 600
8gb Ram
(All my drivers are up to date.
 
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Ok getting a bit full on the main disk (assuming that the 400 gb disk is where windows and wow are). Ok when the disk says 94% and you're tabbed out, which process is listed first if you sort by disk usage (click on disk usage until it's sorted most to least).
Also, you never said what was happening to the cpu and gpu while the screen was lagging? Was it up? Down?
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I dont know? How can I check and set it?
If its the power setting and Preferred Plans I changed it to 'High performance' and restarted the pc but still No change.

 
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On windows 10 (google to find on different windows versions), if you go under control panel->system & security->power options, check you're not on energy saver. You should be on balanced. Don't go high performance if you have the option as that'll crank your cpu even when on idle and it's not necessary.
For your gpu, go into nvidia (or amd) driver settings (under display settings) and make sure it's set to max performance and not adaptive.
For your cpu, you can usually set that either within bios or again, within windows power settings there should be processor power management option. Detailed explanation here:
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/balance-efficiency-and-performance-with-windows-10-power-options/
 
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I have set the power setting on 'Balanced' . I dont know where the power settings are on BIOS and under the display options in Nvidia there are only these options , ;Change resolution, Adjust desktop colour settings, Rotate display , View HDCP status, Set up Digital audio , Adjust desktop size and position , set up multiple displays' I dont know why I have this problem I removed my GPU and started the pc with the on board graphics card and It seemed well , nothing has lagged.

 
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Which means a gpu setting. Lemme check on mine where it'd be.

See where the power options are? Don't set it to adaptive. You can do max performance though optimal should be fine, just not adaptive. And see how it's a global setting? There's also program specific ones in the second tab. Make sure for whatever app it is you're using, it's not a different setting for it per program.
 
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I have set it to 'Prefer maximum performance' and restarted the pc. Still nothing same thing happens ...

 
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Did you check the per program settings instead of only global setting for power? If your global is set to whatever, but say power for your browser or for whatever plugin or game is set low, global setting won't override it.
 
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So what do I set the applications I want to? I think I have set the things I wanted but still no change
 
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Well say your global setting is set to optimal or max performance, just make sure that whatever game it is that stutters, or whatever browser or media player you're using in individual program settings tab is not set to adaptive, but is instead also optimal or max performance. The tab is right there on the pic I posted. Right on top, says global and program settings.
If still issues, then I'd fiddle with the other settings, turning they down low/off until you get performance without any issues.

However what's worrying about all this is that you've been fine with your settings for a while, and it only started happening meaning something changed. Did you change anything on your computer? New drivers? Maybe as innocuous as a windows update? Did you install any new programs? Something that might run in the background whenever you're not actively using the computer? Did you try running a gpu-z utility on top, sort by usage and just see if there's anything new popping to hog your processing power in your gpu? You can check the same for cpu in your task manager.
 
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Yeah I know where to change them but This only happend today in the morning so I dont think so that has anything to do with that when I never changed anything in there ?
 
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Hmm well first I'd go into update history and check if the update contained any optional updates to do with graphics or anything that might impact video performance. If yes, roll back that specific driver. And then I'd still check the cpu and gpu curves when this happens, just to see what's going on. Are they going crazy? Are they dropping off? Is anything happening? Are there other processes starting up and hogging the processing power?
 
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Im not into these cpu and gpu curves , can you explain to me where do I find them to tell you? or is it the GPU Tweak I have to moderate the Gpu
 
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No no you don't actually change anything. For watching cpu, just hit ctrl+alt+delete and you should get an option to start a task manager. Sort your cpu highest to lowest, and don't close the window. Bring it up when this happens with your games/videos and see which tasks have highest percentage cpu.
Gpu-Z or Gpu-tweak, whatever you prefer, are separate utilities to install and allow you the option to record what's going on and basically you see an output, like a curve. You just need to see if it's hitting the very top at 100% and plateauing there when this fps drop happens in your games, or is it basically dropping off, or if it's changing in any way.
In task manager, performance tab will give you also a curve like this, so you can monitor what happens over time, and when you tab into task manager and gpu-z or move the mouse or whatever, what happened to both curves.
 
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Ill try to restore the backup to few days ago if that doesnt work I would need to reinstall windows :/

 
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Er....I wouldn't do anything quite that drastic. That's a bit much but if you see it as simpler ok. I'd still just try to figure out what in particular is the problem, cause after you reinstall, you're going to windows update, you're not going to just stop with updates. And then you're going to install all the same stuff you have. Chances are you might get the same issue unless you figure out why it's happening.
 
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What can I do then :( ?
 
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Look you need to figure out what's going on with your cpu and gpu when this happens. I've told you, you need to look at their output both in task manager and in gpu-z. Are they going high? (like they're trying to process something) or are they just dropping off (like the power is being throttled) or are they just plateauing (something within the apps is the problem cause their performance hardware wise isn't impacted). You're going to have to do a bit of detective work.
If it's a bit complex for you personally, get a friend or family member more experienced with computers to just check for you, rather than reinstalling everything.
 
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Ok lets try to figure this out, I have the Task manager opened and the GPU Tweak , What do I look at and what do you need to know?
In Task Manager in the tab 'Processes'
When Im in game (World of warcraft)
Cpu: Around 75%
Memory: Around 82%
Disk: Around 50%
Network: 0%
When Im on desktop
Cpu: Around 20%
Memory: 38%
Disk: Around 94%
Network: 0%

 
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Ok now play your game. You're fullscreen into the game. You don't touch anything for however long. Things start to lag horribly, you wait for a few seconds of this then alt tab back to desktop to task manager and to your gpu-z. In your task manager, look at the first tab, processes. Hopefully you've clicked to sort them by cpu usage. What's highest? Where is it at? Click the second tab, performance. Click on cpu on the left side. It'll show you cpu usage over time. CPU probably changed when you alt tabbed out of the game, so you should be able to see that, but before that happened, try and see what was happening in that period when you were in game and things slowed down. Were there any changes? You can do exact same thing with gpu-z but I think you have to tell it to record gpu over time rather than it doing automatically. I don't remember the setting anymore but it should look like this:
http://static.techarena.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NVIDIA-Geforce-GTX-770-GPU-Z-Sensor-620x759.jpg
In the image there itself, see how the load can totally change? You'll have to re-do this waiting to freeze->alt tab to utilities to check a few times, before you're confident that whatever dips you're seeing correspond in timing to the freeze and not to the alt tab.
What's the second highest process? Third? Is there anything on there that shouldn't be? Something that is running that you might have forgotten about? Like steam in the background downloading crap or some torrents running or who knows what that might not be immediately obvious until you start looking at processes in task manager.
 
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I updated my last comment read it
 
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Yeah you tabbed out and you saw the cpu drop as expected when you move a game into the background. Now what happened prior to you tabbing out. Click on the second tab that says performance. It logs cpu usage over 60 seconds. It should include period when you tabbed out as well as at least half a minute prior. What happens in there?
See how it says suddenly disk usage 94% when tabbed out? That's...weird. And I'm all the more convinced you're downloading something in the background and you don't know it. Is a new wow update coming and blizzard is downloading it via wow loader in the background? Steam? Torrent? Is a windows update running? Antivirus downloading something? Running a pre-scheduled scan? Check processes.
Your network shows at 0 but it shouldn't ever be 0 really, not sure if I believe that while you're running wow.
Also...might seem unrelated but check how much free space you have on your hard disk.
 
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I have nothing running in the background, DISK C: 71.48gb free of 402gb , DISK E: 197gb free of 266Gb , DISK F: 240gb free of 262gb
 
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