Is there any sense in upgrading GPU with my low-end PC?

Dmitry_6

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Hi there guys. Here is my problem:

I have a low-end PC which I'm not intending to give up on in the next 3-3.5 years.

Core 2 Quad Q9400 @ 2.66 GHz, MSI P43-Neo3 mobo
8GB DDR2 800 MHz (2x4)
500 HDD
Palit GT 730 1 GB GDDR5

However, I wonder if I could get better performance in videogames. My specs run CS:GO on more or less comfortable level (if im playind ez maps like dust_2) so I could enjoy the game tho it's definetly loosing it's control even over this one. Overwatch runs ok but is not comfortable to play. Avg fps is like 45 I guess. PUBG Is crushing from time-to-time and Im not able to shoot OK since it's like ~20 avg fps.

What Im thinking of: Would GTX 750 Ti 4GB be a solution for me to get comfortable experience of playing videogames for some more years?

I was also thinking of R7 360 but there is only 2gb version on markets. Will this be enough? RX 550 is not on markets as well :p

GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB is bit more then I wanna spend frankly speaking. Not sure how 2 GB version will do. Anyways, as I get it, 3 options I listed higher are not bottlenecking my CPU as much as gtx 1050 would do.

Thx for reading. Gratefull to any help!
 
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:eek2: That's probably the most powerful 1050 Ti out there. When someone says Asus ROG Strix gamers KNOW they are in for a treat. Consider my 1080Ti. It's $699. The Asus ROG Strix model? $750!!!!!!!! The top end MSI 1080 Ti might be a wee bit better. Anyways, I'm rambling. I think that's a great choice and one you should be satisfied with for a while.

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the cpu is the bottleneck not those cards

get the gtx 1050, on these lower end cards 4gb is a pointless selling gimmick

they are not strong enough to use it
 

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Do not, I repeat, DO NOT buy the R7 360 or the GTX 750 ti. Their performance is poor for their price, get something newer instead, like the RX 560.
My advice: Save up for the GTX 1050 ti at least, since you want need any upgrade any time soon. Also, you should start saving up for a CPU-Mobo-RAM set, since the Q9400 is considered a legacy CPU, and it wont be enough for newer titles.
 
No point in upgrading your CPU. Only a couple better but not anything that would make a justifiable improvement.

Can you find the 750 Ti in the used market? The 1050 is only a few dollars more or less money for more performance. I am referring to the 2GB models.

What resolution do you play at? The 4GB model would be nice for 1080p but at 1366x768 2GB and lower settings is okay.
 

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I just want to get comfortable in games i named above for some time. After that I will just get myself new PC. So I don't wanna spend lots of money for video card right now.
 

Dmitry_6

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Im playing at 1440x900
 


If you are comfortable with little eye candy and possibly lowering your resolution I'd vote for a used 750 Ti 2GB for maybe $75 or a new 1050 2GB.

What will happen to your investment if the used 750Ti dies? No warranty... Just a FYI in the interest of full disclosure or something.
 

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a 750 ti is a good 720p card

a 1050 is super great for your current resolution, 2gb version is more than enough

 

Dmitry_6

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So as I see it now 1050 is better option overall? But which one exactly ? And are you sure guys 2 gb will be enough for 3 more years?
PS: can't find any used cards and frankly not willing to buy it
 


No I'm not. I was exceeding 2.7GB VRAM with a 3 year old game at 1920x1080. Far Cry 4. Sure, at 1400x900 that will be less but with 3 years of games taken into consideration there's no way in a bowl of Jell-o I'd recommend a 2GB card. That's why I said "and possibly lowering your resolution ". Play comfortably at 1400x900? 4GB 1050Ti. But your " is bit more then I wanna spend frankly speaking" frankly sounds like a not willing to spend that much. But you also seem to have an open mind, meaning you said "more than I wanna". What if the wanna wasn't a wanna but instead was a need? An investment in your future that will return happy gaming? Not frivolous spending?
 

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Hmm ye makes sense. However, what do you think of RX 550 2GB ?
 


No. I can't afford the 1080Ti. Seriously. I can't afford the 1080. I could barely afford the 970 FTW. I've never purchased a card that was more expensive than about $320. My next card? The 1080Ti. I am exercising patience. Sure, I am having to save up for a LOT longer but as is the case with many builds it needs to last for about 3 years before a part says, I need to be significantly overclocked or replaced. Sorry coach. I've always settled. This is not to say I was not pleased with the 570 Classified. Or any card I have used. I do not regret those decisions. I am however not settling this time. Oh, okay life, this is what I can afford. I acquiesce to you and my financial adviser(who's name happens to be Wallet). I don't have any choice in the matter. I won't wait an additional 6 months. I want to game and I want to game now.

Why should you settle with the 1050 2GB which whoops on the 550 4GB or the 550 2GB? The 1050 Ti is my recommendation.
 

Dmitry_6

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aight :D thx mate, got it
 

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I found ZOTAC 1050 TI 4 GB for reasonable price. It doesn't require any additional power supply from PSU tho. Is it good enough? Btw, how do you compare rx 560 vs 1050 ti then? Seen many reviews, but ill listen to your call on this, either asus rog rx 560 or zotac 1050 ti it is i guess.
 

Dmitry_6

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So I see 1050 > every other mid range card. Ok then. But then again, why no additional power supply in Zotac version and how wil it go on my low end mobo and what is the difference between 1050 ti and 1050 ti mini version?
 


To put it simply, the major difference is cooling. 2 fans are more efficient so they will also be quieter. Might be looking at a 5c difference.

Most 1050 Ti's don't need additional power. Where does the GPU inside come from? Nvidia. The PCB, cooling solutions and other things are then implemented by a third party such as Zotac. The base model is a 75W card http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1050-ti/specifications. The PCIe slot that your board has offers any GFX card up to 75W. Any PCIe x 16 slot offers up to 75W. Okay, most any PCIe slot offers up to 75W.SOme companies love the word proprietary. We will make this and will install it in our pre-built PC. When they want a replacement they will have no choice but to buy it from us. Or they will implement other changes such as a PCIe slot only offering 35W. VERY unusual(Dell? Looking at you) and most likely not done any more but in the process of answering past questions I've seen that and other oddities. When a card needs more than that PCIe supplementary power cables come into the picture. Each additional 6 pin cable provides up to an additional 75W. Each 8 pin cable offers up to an additional 150W. As you already know OC'ing causes more heat. Better cooling can allow for a higher OC. Yes, many other values contribute to a higher OC. We're not at school right now. The most obvious additional thing it will need is power. But how much does that card OC? Does the extra 6 pin have enough value to justify the price? Is it worth it is something only you can answer. You've already came to the conclusion that the 1050 Ti's performance is worth it when compared to other vanilla 1050s or 750Ti or any other lower end card. We have your answer on that. Remember Nvidia? The ones that make the GPU? GPUs and CPUs aren't identical. Set a 1050Ti next to an additional 1050ti and look at the GPUs under a microscope. Not the same. Companies test the GPUs prior to installing them. It's called "binning". A binning process. This is why companies offer OC, SC, SSC, AMP Extreme, FTW and other OC'd models. Some 1050Tis won't be stable at OC'd levels. They are in the vanilla models. Others OC very well and are placed in SSC, FTW or AMP extreme models.


I look at professional reviews, user reviews, youtube comparison videos and do other research when I've finally narrowed down my GFX card. I want the 1080Ti. Now which 1080 Ti do I want? I've "settled" on a few 1080 Ti graphic cards. My final answer is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XDN4TXK.

We've all given you information that has allowed you to get to this point in your decision-making process. The ball's in your court now. Narrow it down to 2 or 3 cards if you can. Or narrow it down to one. Ask or tell us when you have.
 

Dmitry_6

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Thx for explanation mate. I guess Asus Rog Strix will be my choice then. It has many options for cooling and seems to last longer then others if OCing bit more on new PC which I would build in like 3 yrs from now so I could save on GPU and get high-end graphics later.
 
:eek2: That's probably the most powerful 1050 Ti out there. When someone says Asus ROG Strix gamers KNOW they are in for a treat. Consider my 1080Ti. It's $699. The Asus ROG Strix model? $750!!!!!!!! The top end MSI 1080 Ti might be a wee bit better. Anyways, I'm rambling. I think that's a great choice and one you should be satisfied with for a while.
 
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