So i want to play cs:go but i play with the lowest settings possible and i have 50-60 fps and that is pretty depressing. i have a AMD FX-4300 3.8 ghz cpu and AMD Radeon HD 5450 1gb gpu, i don't know anything about these kind of things, but my friend says that they are pretty good, what should i upgrade first and can you suggest what kind of cpu/gpu i should buy (i want only intel or nvidia) and i have a 100$ budget.
What to upgrade first? cpu or gpu?
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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Minimum Requirements
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom X3 8750 processor or better
RAM: 2 GB
Video Card: Radeon HD 6450 or GeForce GT 420
these are the MINIMUM requirements, and your CPU Is slightly better than the requirements. As for the video card it seems to be suitable though slightly underpowered.
Suggested requirements for the game;
CPU: Pentium Dual Core E5700 3GHz or AMD Phenom 8750 Triple-Core
Ram : 4GB
Video Card: GeForce GT 630 or Radeon HD 6670 1GB
upgrading to better CPu will depend on your Make/model of your motherboard
upgrading to a better video card will depend on Make/model of your power supply.
possible upgrades would be FX-8350 IF motherboard permits and Video Card a GTX 750 TI for a new card or a used card an HD 7850 1GB.
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Minimum Requirements
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom X3 8750 processor or better
RAM: 2 GB
Video Card: Radeon HD 6450 or GeForce GT 420
these are the MINIMUM requirements, and your CPU Is slightly better than the requirements. As for the video card it seems to be suitable though slightly underpowered.
Suggested requirements for the game;
CPU: Pentium Dual Core E5700 3GHz or AMD Phenom 8750 Triple-Core
Ram : 4GB
Video Card: GeForce GT 630 or Radeon HD 6670 1GB
upgrading to better CPu will depend on your Make/model of your motherboard
upgrading to a better video card will depend on Make/model of your power supply.
possible upgrades would be FX-8350 IF motherboard permits and Video Card a GTX 750 TI for a new card or a used card an HD 7850 1GB.
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I don't know the CPU and GPU enough to outright say which is more essential to upgrade. However, Tom's Hardware has GPU and CPU hierarchy charts. Your GPU is much lower compared to the CPU. Plus, a good GPU can be easily transferred to a new system when you upgrade your motherboard and CPU.
Perhaps a more important factor to consider is what monitor you have. Most basic monitors are only 60 Hz anyway, so you don't need to reach 100+ fps. Realistically, you're not going to notice major improvement.
Perhaps a more important factor to consider is what monitor you have. Most basic monitors are only 60 Hz anyway, so you don't need to reach 100+ fps. Realistically, you're not going to notice major improvement.
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Definitely the GPU. My current build started off a few years back with the HD 6450 (essentially the same card). It's a cheap, passive-cooled GPU that's primarily meant for systems without an integrated GPU & can handle very light gaming. Hence why it can hit 50-60FPS in CS:GO.
Depending on your power supply, you could at least get a GTX 1050. That would blow the HD 5450 (& even a GTX 750Ti) away, & wouldn't require any additional power connections. If you have a decent PSU, however (especially if it has the PCIe power connectors on it), you might be able to go up to a GTX 1060 (or even an AMD RX 470/480/570/580, but those are pretty much out of stock thanks to the -- I can't use the term since we're in polite company --
cryptocurrency miners). And, should you then decide in the next 12 months that you want to upgrade the rest of your system, you'll already have a decent mid-range GPU for it.
Depending on your power supply, you could at least get a GTX 1050. That would blow the HD 5450 (& even a GTX 750Ti) away, & wouldn't require any additional power connections. If you have a decent PSU, however (especially if it has the PCIe power connectors on it), you might be able to go up to a GTX 1060 (or even an AMD RX 470/480/570/580, but those are pretty much out of stock thanks to the -- I can't use the term since we're in polite company --
cryptocurrency miners). And, should you then decide in the next 12 months that you want to upgrade the rest of your system, you'll already have a decent mid-range GPU for it.
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You should be fine. Most of the GTX 1050 models only draw from the PCIe slot on the motherboard, & the slot is limited IIRC to 75W. So you should be OK with a regular GTX 1050. You could maybe even get a GTX 1050TI, but make sure that it doesn't require a separate 6- or 8-pin PCIe power connector.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6013/350450w-roundup-11-cheap-psus/4
They call it "cheap" because of the price, but it's probably OK:
-- Their site says they would probably be able to get the 80+ Bronze rating, except that the Electric Power Research Institute/EPRI only tests 115V PSUs, not 230V PSUs (http://bulk.fsp-europe.com/fsp400-60apn-85);
-- Anandtech.com rates the capacitors (mostly CapXon, some Teapo) as being solid & reliable (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6013/350450w-roundup-11-cheap-psus/4)
-- Although your specific model isn't on the list, FSP is listed as both the brand name & OEM source for a number of Tier 1 to Tier 3 PSUs (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html). They also are listed as the source for a Tier 4 PSU (FSP Raider series, as well as EVGA's NEXB series), but I don't think that's what your PSU is.
The manufacturer lists it as 400W; Anandtech lists it as only 336W guaranteed (at least on the 12V rails), although apparently it does come with a single 6-pin PCIe connector. For safety's sake, I would still make sure that the new GPU does not require the use of PCIe power connectors. For example, something like Gigabyte's OC (http://www.gigabyte.us/Graphics-Card/GV-N1050OC-2GD#sp) or D5 (http://www.gigabyte.us/Graphics-Card/GV-N1050D5-2GD#sp) cards, or EVGA's SSC Gaming (https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-6154-KR) card, should do just fine for your system. I'm sure MSI, PowerColor, & other vendors have similar models as well.
They call it "cheap" because of the price, but it's probably OK:
-- Their site says they would probably be able to get the 80+ Bronze rating, except that the Electric Power Research Institute/EPRI only tests 115V PSUs, not 230V PSUs (http://bulk.fsp-europe.com/fsp400-60apn-85);
-- Anandtech.com rates the capacitors (mostly CapXon, some Teapo) as being solid & reliable (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6013/350450w-roundup-11-cheap-psus/4)
-- Although your specific model isn't on the list, FSP is listed as both the brand name & OEM source for a number of Tier 1 to Tier 3 PSUs (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html). They also are listed as the source for a Tier 4 PSU (FSP Raider series, as well as EVGA's NEXB series), but I don't think that's what your PSU is.
The manufacturer lists it as 400W; Anandtech lists it as only 336W guaranteed (at least on the 12V rails), although apparently it does come with a single 6-pin PCIe connector. For safety's sake, I would still make sure that the new GPU does not require the use of PCIe power connectors. For example, something like Gigabyte's OC (http://www.gigabyte.us/Graphics-Card/GV-N1050OC-2GD#sp) or D5 (http://www.gigabyte.us/Graphics-Card/GV-N1050D5-2GD#sp) cards, or EVGA's SSC Gaming (https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-6154-KR) card, should do just fine for your system. I'm sure MSI, PowerColor, & other vendors have similar models as well.
ok, i finnaly start to understand what you are talking about, so you are saying my psu has a 6-pin connector, so i can buy this gpu https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N105TWF2OC-4GD#kf and what i don't understand is, what makes a cpu/gpu good? i thought for cpu the more Ghz the better the pc is, but i have a AMD FX-4300 3.8 ghz cpu, and that is alot, i think, i can overclock it to 4.2 ghz, but this cpu is considered not good, and what makes a gpu good i don't even know, the Mhz? And thank you again!
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Yes, you should be OK with that GTX 1050Ti.
CPU-wise, the problem with your FX-4300 is that it's using the Bulldozer/Piledriver architecture. You have 4 physical "integer" cores on that, mounted in pairs in "modules" (2 modules total), but each model only has a single "floating point" piece that they share. It was a way for AMD to squeeze more physical cores onto the CPU (thereby giving them a marketing advantage over Intel). The problem was, a lot of games still don't take advantage of more than 4 cores, physical or otherwise (there's maybe a handful that see any major improvement going from a core i5, for example, to a core i7). Which is why, for the most part, your chip is considered a "2C/4T" CPU like Intel's core i3 lineup: 2C = 2 cores (based on the floating-point section), 4T = 4 threads/processes/applications (based on the integer sections). Basically, you ended up with a lower-level CPU that is going to get beat out by most Intel & AMD chips out there.
But that's not necessarily a problem. Chances are good that, due to CS:GO's age, your CPU is more than sufficient for the performance that you'd need & that would even be visible on your monitor.
CPU-wise, the problem with your FX-4300 is that it's using the Bulldozer/Piledriver architecture. You have 4 physical "integer" cores on that, mounted in pairs in "modules" (2 modules total), but each model only has a single "floating point" piece that they share. It was a way for AMD to squeeze more physical cores onto the CPU (thereby giving them a marketing advantage over Intel). The problem was, a lot of games still don't take advantage of more than 4 cores, physical or otherwise (there's maybe a handful that see any major improvement going from a core i5, for example, to a core i7). Which is why, for the most part, your chip is considered a "2C/4T" CPU like Intel's core i3 lineup: 2C = 2 cores (based on the floating-point section), 4T = 4 threads/processes/applications (based on the integer sections). Basically, you ended up with a lower-level CPU that is going to get beat out by most Intel & AMD chips out there.
But that's not necessarily a problem. Chances are good that, due to CS:GO's age, your CPU is more than sufficient for the performance that you'd need & that would even be visible on your monitor.
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