What to study to become versed in networking?

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Hello everyone :)

So I have great experience and skills working on single computers, I can do almost everything, from Hardware to Software. Hands on since 1992, no problem I wasn't able to solve. And I'm also well predisposed to learn IT stuff, maybe because I started with MS-DOS, I don't know.

Thinking about changing career, salaries are good in IT and I like computer stuff very much!

However, every single IT job posting like Computer Technician, IT support, IT technician, etc., also requires network knowledge, like TCP/IP, networking, setting up or maintaining networks, that stuff.
And this is my weak point.

I'm almost 40 and I ain't no time nor money to go back to school.
Furthermore, everything else that I would be taught in college and that isn't strictly networking, I already know, waste of time.

So I'd like to be able to say YES I AM when they ask me if I'm good with networks. I wanna be able to write that down on my resume.

Would you please be so kind to tell me a complete list of topics / books / maybe youtube channel to learn networking stuff?

In your opinion, how long will it take for me to become versed? let's say dedicating 1 hour/day to studying it (I'm very busy).

Thank you so much, I appreciate your help.
 
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While I do think Network+ is absolutely a great idea, if you just want to get into the field with a helpdesk or IT support position, I'd highly recommend Security+ or A+. Like I said, not bashing on Network+ at all, but Security/A+ carry a lot more weight on a resume. Network+ is more of a nice thing to have for a resume, while the other two will qualify you for a lot of positions.

A+ should be more or less a shoe-in for you if you have a lot of experience with end-user hardware. A+ is a certification that is specifically tailored for computer service technicians, and it is very often a prerequisite for helpdesk positions. Security+ might be a little more difficult, as it introduces more Cybersecurity topics than A+ does, but an...
I would try and get a few certifications if I were you. Certifications are a good way of proving that you have some knowledge and experience in an area without getting a degree. The most valuable certifications for IT jobs are probably CompTIA Security+, A+, Network+, and Cisco's CCENT.

Of all of these, I would highly recommend Security+. This is a great certification to get to prove some general knowledge in the IT field, and it is a requirement on a lot of job offerings. A+ Is a good certification to get if you are planning on getting a helpdesk job, and is typically a certification that HR departments like to see on a resume.

Network+ will cover all of the topics you mentioned, and then some. If you want more in depth knowledge of a lot of networking topics, this is a good one to go for. And the Cisco certification also covers a lot of networking material, especially concerning networking protocols and devices (switches, routers, firewalls, etc). While this is a good one to get, I wouldn't say the Cisco cert is a particularly high priority one to go for.

There are various materials you can use to study for these certifications, and a simple google search can net you a lot of information about the best ways to get these certifications. There are plenty of people that have gotten these certifications before, and have helpful information for studying for them, and passing the exams.

I'll link you the study books below for these certs, but I'd say the best ways to get well-versed in these areas is to look at what other people have done for these certs. People have planned study guides, giving you a timeframe of how long you should study, what you should study, when to schedule the exam, etc etc. Another great way of learning this stuff is to actually get some hands-on experience with it. Maybe pick up some used networking gear off of ebay or something and setup an environment to learn in.

https://www.amazon.com/CompTIA-Security-Certified-Ahead-SY0-401/dp/1939136024/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497886500&sr=1-1&keywords=security%2B+book

https://www.amazon.com/CompTIA-Certification-Guide-220-901-220-902/dp/125958951X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497886527&sr=1-1&keywords=a%2B+certification+book

https://www.amazon.com/CompTIA-Network-Guide-Sixth-N10-006/dp/0071848223/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497886541&sr=1-1&keywords=network%2B+certification+book

https://www.amazon.com/CCENT-ICND1-100-101-Official-Guide/dp/1587143852/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497886553&sr=1-1&keywords=ccent+study+book

EDIT: This is all coming from a Systems Administrator for a DoD contractor, in case you were curious about my background in the field. :)
 

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Wow thanks Slumy!! Such a thorough explanation!!!

Well let's say that I wouldn't overdo it. I'm not looking for being a specialist in networking. More like helpdesk, assistance, hardware, software, install, assemble, update, reinstall, remove virus, all general PC stuff. Just the basic networking knowledge that is always requested even in these general IT job postings.

let’s say if I just want to add that basic networking knowledge that I lack (not wasting time overdoing learning things I won’t need).

Thanks

Thank you too Boosted!
 
The best accredited entry level networking certification is still network +.

This is going to have more then you need including dabling into some cryptography.

While this may seem like a lot of unneeded information it lays a very good foundation and really allows you to understand the concepts of networking.
I have found that there are 2 types of technicians:
Type 1 can cram for a test and pass it, they dont understand the concepts they just play with settings until eventually it works (hopefully). They know what each setting is but they dont really understand how it all works together because they never took the time to actually understand the concept.
Type 2 understands concepts, thus they can mentally create a flowchart and know that if for example you have DNS running nslookup on a problem computer then you can narrow down the possible issues significantly.
So in a nutshell Type 1 tries potentially all 80 settings to fix a problem, Type 2 can do 3 tests and limits it down to 10-15 things.
 

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That sounds useful, thanks Boosted.

And, do you mean that the Network+ certification will make me a Type 2 guy?
 
If you take the time to understand everything and not just remember vocab words then yes.

For my network plus I read mike meyers topic book as well as watched the youtube videos by professor messor (http://www.professormesser.com/network-plus/n10-006/n10-006-course-index/)

There were a couple topics I did some other videos for better clarification (I remember Kerberos authentication server being one of them, as the book and even messers video did a horrible job explaining it).
 

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FANTASTIC!

Thanks!!
 
While I do think Network+ is absolutely a great idea, if you just want to get into the field with a helpdesk or IT support position, I'd highly recommend Security+ or A+. Like I said, not bashing on Network+ at all, but Security/A+ carry a lot more weight on a resume. Network+ is more of a nice thing to have for a resume, while the other two will qualify you for a lot of positions.

A+ should be more or less a shoe-in for you if you have a lot of experience with end-user hardware. A+ is a certification that is specifically tailored for computer service technicians, and it is very often a prerequisite for helpdesk positions. Security+ might be a little more difficult, as it introduces more Cybersecurity topics than A+ does, but an overwhelming number of positions are looking for people that hold a Security+, and if you ever decide you wanna go government, whether working on gov contracts or as a gov employee, most government positions will require a Security+.

And all that aside, Security+ is a very achievable certification, especially if you don't mind setting time aside for reading a book. I've heard of people and had coworkers that decided to get it, and had the cert within a months time. And that includes a few people I know that got it with 0 experience in the field before starting.

EDIT: The Mike Meyers books are awesome books. I've never used them myself, but I've heard nothing but awesome things about them from anybody I know that has used them.
 
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GREAT! Thanks!!

Sounds like a plan.

So, I checked the topics of A+ and I know most of them. Just little things like ITX motherboard or very specific niche things I don't know.

So I guess I should:


PHASE 1:
• Get A+ book/videos
• Study only the Networking topics and the few other things I don't know
• Get A+ certificate

PHASE 2:
• Study Security+
• Get Security+ certificate

PHASE 3 (if needed):
• Study Network+
• Get it

What do you think?

Main question:

Will selectively studying the networking parts of A+ give me enough basic networking knowledge?

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That sounds like a pretty great plan to me. Once you complete phase 1, get a resume together, and apply to a bunch of positions. A+ should be enough to get you a helpdesk position somewhere.

Then, get security+ to give yourself some headroom for upwards movement within the company you'll be working for, or moving to a different position. After that, you can look into Network+ or CCENT or whatever other certs you may want/need in the future.

As for your question, it will depend entirely on what you want to do. A+ should be enough networking knowledge to qualify you for a helpdesk/IT support job, but if you ever decide to do something beyond that, A+ won't necessarily cut it.

Most Sys Admin jobs will require more in-depth networking knowledge than just A+, and any network engineer or systems engineer positions will definitely require more networking knowledge. But if you just want to get into the IT field with some sort of an IT support job, then A+ should give you enough network troubleshooting knowledge.
 

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Perfect!

Thanks Slumy.

Thanks Boosted and everyone.

Btw, I tried the sample questions found on the 901 and 902 A+ exam page from CompTIA, and I knew almost everything. Just missed a couple of answers, guess about what? Networking! LOL
 
If you get Security + then you really dont need to look at network + as security + is just more in depth on the cybersecurity aspects with some network + thrown in.

I agree that for government or other jobs that security+ is much more desired over network +.

I would find some free or inexpensive network + books (or look at local library), and watch the videos; then after that study security +.
Security + is bassically more in depth knowledge of the security portion of network + (plus the more business minded things like risk assesment).
It would be very difficult to learn security + without already knowing things covered in network + like OSI model and network topologies.
 

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Oh thanks again Boosted!

Wow, you lost me at OSI and topologies lol :D

Okay, so if I'll ever need to go beyond PHASE1, I'll add studying Network+ in between, before PHASE2.

Thanks! ;)
 
A general comment on the value of certifications. They are good means to get a structured method to learn things. They themselves thought do not guarantee any form of job. They are more a check box to get you to the next interview stage. Most the "+" certifications are considered very easy to get so they don't hold as much value. Mostly it is everyone seems to have them so it become a base line rather than a something that makes you special.

Even the Cisco certs are starting to get valued less because so many people have them. The CCNA is a lot more difficult to pass than most other vendors network certifications. The more advanced cisco certs are even harder.

Even CCIE which used to almost guarantee a high paid network position seems to have lost it luster but for companies that actually require it they still pay good.

I am starting to suspect part of the decline in network positions is many companies are outsourcing this to the "cloud" providers much like the server function has been done. Most the jobs are now with these large providers like verizon or att.

Note I have had my CCIE in routing and in security for more than 15yrs.
 

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Okay thanks.

However, my intent is not to be a network technician. I'd like to be a computer technician. I just need the basic computer networking knowledge that is usually also required for a computer technician position.