My PC won't let me install ANY version of GPU driver

bokac91

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Greetings, good people.
Couple days ago, I got up, turned on my 4-years old PC, did some surfing, turned on one of the games I play (HoTS), and after couple of secs my PC made a very strange BEEP, followed by black screen and restart. After that, it rebooted normally, and I tried the same - and the same beep, black screen and restart happened again.
After that event, my PC wouldn't boot at all. He'd get to the point of loading of Windows, after which it'd just restart again..
I tried every type or repair, I even reinstalled fully my Windows 10, but the restarts keep ocurring. One of the temperature-measuring softwares showed me that the temp's are better than good.
After I managed to install W10 again, I downloaded AMD's GPU driver, which got to 100% of installation, completed it, restarted my PC (intentionally), my Windows started to boot, and again, it just reseted...
I'm starting to think that my GPU is dying (ATI Radeon HD7770). I even tried to install "original" driver from the CD, but when I even try to use, for example, Chrome, my PC restarts.

Please, help.
 
Solution
While HWMonitor is not a 'perfect' tool for FX chips (Thermal Margin via AMD Overdrive would be - measures 'degrees to zero'), HWMonitor @ 45'C should be a relatively good indicator that temps are ok.

A concern here would be the PSU. I can't find any reliable reviews on it, but the spec, as per a few sources:
http://www.pc-specs.com/psu/Blueberry/Blueberry_PSB560_560_Wat/1297
http://www.game-debate.com/psu/index.php?ps_id=1297&psu=Blueberry%20PSB560%20560%20Wat
Indicates it's only 16A on the single 12V rail (ie 192W)......making this "560" PSU more of a 200W unit ..... assuming it can actually do that stable.
It's also 25A on the 5V rail = 125W
16A on the 3.3V = 53W

Even combined, that's ~370W........ looks like a case of a...

bokac91

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GPU: ASUS HD7700 1GB
RAM: 8192MB
CPU: AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core (~3.8GHz)

I can't get any more of the details, since my PC will just restart if I try to look-up more. Also, I've tried to replace my HDD and RAM (since I got another horrible PC), but nothing helped. Also, I don't see how overheating could be the problem, since I've been tracking it.
 

Barty1884

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What about the PSU? Should be written on the side.

As for the overheating potential, how are you tracking it? It may not be the case, but it's one of the potential causes (and the fact trying to do anything additional; chrome etc, would put a little extra load on the CPU and increase temps slightly).
 

bokac91

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PSU: Blueberry PSB560

By tracking I meant using CPUID HWMonitor to track the temperatures - none of them even reacher 45 C (sorry if I didn't understood something or if I didnt express myself properly, english is not my native language).
The thing that makes me think that the problem is with the GPU is that before I installed CD-version of GPU driver I was able to use Chrome, for example (during that time, I had screen tearings, ofc, since I didn't have any GPU driver). Also, I don't have another GPU to test if mine is not working properly..
 

Barty1884

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While HWMonitor is not a 'perfect' tool for FX chips (Thermal Margin via AMD Overdrive would be - measures 'degrees to zero'), HWMonitor @ 45'C should be a relatively good indicator that temps are ok.

A concern here would be the PSU. I can't find any reliable reviews on it, but the spec, as per a few sources:
http://www.pc-specs.com/psu/Blueberry/Blueberry_PSB560_560_Wat/1297
http://www.game-debate.com/psu/index.php?ps_id=1297&psu=Blueberry%20PSB560%20560%20Wat
Indicates it's only 16A on the single 12V rail (ie 192W)......making this "560" PSU more of a 200W unit ..... assuming it can actually do that stable.
It's also 25A on the 5V rail = 125W
16A on the 3.3V = 53W

Even combined, that's ~370W........ looks like a case of a horribly mislabeled PSU..... which alot of the time suggests a very poor quality unit.

Given you've got a 95W CPU, a max 80W GPU, the balance of the components (say<40W), and the fact this PSU is ~4years old...... I'd be inclined to lean towards the PSU as totally incapable of reliably powering your setup.

 
Solution
HD 7700? Please be more specific. CPU-Z is a good app to get the info too, and may be easier than HWMonitor (which serves a different job) to get info.


I would suspect your PSU. It is not a quality unit, and doesn't put out that much power on the 12v rail anyway. Borrow a GOOD (not a junk brand/model either) unit, plug everything into it. Power up and see how it behaves. If everything is fine, you have your culprit: Replace with a good solid quality unit, not one that will die quickly and/or cause other parts to permanently fail.
 

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I agree, PSU would be the first place to check after temperatures have been verified. While there's no guarantee the PSU is the cause of this particular issue, a low-end junk PSU that can barely power the PSU -- I'd rather have an actual blueberry in my PC -- is a confounding factor that should be taken care of. Then re-evaluate to see if the problem still stands.
 

bokac91

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Oh my.. I have Frontier P4-500W power supply around (an old one, working ok), do you think that I should try to replace and try things out? Also, if you can, can you recommend a power supply for me (in a low-price range)? Thank you very much for helping out.
 

Barty1884

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Typo in the second post I believe, the OP has an HD7770



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Not convinced it would be much better - it's also a pretty poor quality PSU. 25A on the 12V rail = 300W..... so it *might* do better than the Blueberry, but it's not going to be enough to confirm definitively.

As for recommending a PSU, we'll need you to confirm a budget & location as priced vary dramatically by locale.
 

bokac91

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I cannot install CPU-Z, because it'll make my PC crash. It's the HD7770*. I would've easily solve the problem if I had money right now, but sadly, my financial status atm is not the best.
 

bokac91

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Bah, I see.. Thanks again.
My budget would be around 40$, and I'm from Serbia.
 

Barty1884

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Unfortunately you have very limited availability in Serbia, and as far as I can tell, the only PSUs available in the $40 (that's 4,400 dinar approx?) are junk. Chieftec's and offbrand models.

The only thing remotely close to useable in the rough pricerange is the Thermaltake Litepower 500W
http://www.computers.rs/napajanja/51192-thermaltake-ps-ltp-0550npcneu-2-litepower-550w-napajanje.html

5,600 Dinar / $51 USD.

I wouldn't usually recommend that PSU when there are other options available, but without jumping up to the 10,000 Dinar range* ($90+ USD), that's about all there is available to you.

*In the 10,000 Din range, the SeaSonic S12II 520W is available.
http://www.computers.rs/napajanja/7349-seasonic-ss-520gb-520w.html
 

bokac91

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Ok, good, I got it. I'll try to collect more money and I'll get something better. Just to give you heads up - that SeaSonic PSU costs like ~33% of average (monthly) paycheck in Serbia. :D :(
Again, thank you very much (and thanks everyone else who contributed).
 


Shipping to Serbia could be an issue....

At 40$ or even €40, I cannot recommend anything.

Germany has a couple of units I'd look at. (But will Amazon.de ship to you? and for how much if they do.)

XFX P1-450S-X2B9 ProSeries ATX 80+ Bronze 450W €50.99
SeaSonic SS-430ST ECO ATX 80+ Bronze 430W €49.90
 

bokac91

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Just to update on you guys; I tried to swap PSU, but it didn't gave any results. I brought my PC to the service, now I'm expecting answer (probably tomorrow or day after tomorrow).