Underperforming Nvidea GTX 960 + Suggestions regarding possible replacement

thom315c · Jun 23, 2017

Main issue:
So, i have benchmarked my PC to see how things are doing. Found out that, according to userbenchmarks.com, my graphic card is underperforming, whilst all my other hardware is performing above expectations.
As i mainly use my PC for gaming, this is a concerning.
So my question is, what could be causing this? Bad configuration? Old? Need cleaning?
- Also, of course, what could i do to improve/fix this?
My PC is approx. 2 years old (maybe a bit more, not sure)

Copied results from userbenchmarks.com:
UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 78%, Work 56%
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 - 79.7%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 - 38.7%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 103.7%
HDD: Seagate Desktop SSHD 1TB - 96.7%
RAM: Kingston KHX1600C10D3/4G KHX1600C10D3/8G KHX1600C10D3/4G KHX1600C10D3/8G 16GB - 59.6%
MBD: MSI B85M-E45 (MS-7817)

New Graphics card?
Also, i would appreciate any suggestions to a new graphics card, as i am not aware of which components are compatible, and best value for money etc.
Edit: After searching a bit, i found the 1070 to be a good candidate for this, not sure if its compatible or if something is better tho.
(Preffered budget: 300-600$, )

Thank you in advance!
(Also let me know if you need further information, then i will update the post)

maxalge · Jun 23, 2017

thom315c :

Main issue:
So, i have benchmarked my PC to see how things are doing. Found out that, according to userbenchmarks.com, my graphic card is underperforming, whilst all my other hardware is performing above expectations.
As i mainly use my PC for gaming, this is a concerning.
So my question is, what could be causing this? Bad configuration? Old? Need cleaning?
- Also, of course, what could i do to improve/fix this?
My PC is approx. 2 years old (maybe a bit more, not sure)

Copied results from userbenchmarks.com:
UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 78%, Work 56%
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 - 79.7%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 - 38.7%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 103.7%
HDD: Seagate Desktop SSHD 1TB - 96.7%
RAM: Kingston KHX1600C10D3/4G KHX1600C10D3/8G KHX1600C10D3/4G KHX1600C10D3/8G 16GB - 59.6%
MBD: MSI B85M-E45 (MS-7817)

New Graphics card?
Also, i would appreciate any suggestions to a new graphics card, as i am not aware of which components are compatible, and best value for money etc.
(Preffered budget: 300-600$, )

Thank you in advance!
(Also let me know if you need further information, then i will update the post)

user benchmark is utter crap

use actual gpu benchmarks like valley or 3dmark and compare your score to similar setups

make and model of your power supply?

thom315c · Jun 23, 2017

maxalge :

thom315c :

user benchmark is utter crap

use actual gpu benchmarks like valley or 3dmark and compare your score to similar setups

make and model of your power supply?

Thank you for the reply, i will try "Valley", although not sure how to compare to similar setups.
MY PSU is: "Cooler Master B500 VER.2 500W PSU"

maxalge · Jun 23, 2017

thom315c :

google, there are a LOT of websites like this one, that usually have at least a thread that has peeps show their scores

valley is good, make sure to run it on extreme HD

post back your score and we can begin the fun XD

if you want a 1070 you are going to need a new psu, that one is pretty bad

thom315c · Jun 23, 2017

maxalge :

Just finished the test, really liked the program btw.
The results were saved as a hmtl, so i took a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/MgQJ2Jq.png
What price range would that PSU be in?
Again, thanks

maxalge · Jun 23, 2017

thom315c :

you just need a good 550w or better unit, it doesnt need to break the bank

good deal:

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PSS12II620&c=CJ

your score seems to be fine

thom315c · Jun 23, 2017

maxalge :

thom315c :

you just need a good 550w or better unit, it doesnt need to break the bank

good deal:

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PSS12II620&c=CJ

your score seems to be fine

Hmm, okay then.
Unfortunately, I live in Denmark, so extra fees and delivery will probably fk the price up, thanks though.
Found these two, what do you think?

Corsair VS550, 550W PSU
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X
(Converted into USD, thats 630$ for both. Its probably quite cheeper in the US. but thats not an option :/ )

wh3resmycar · Jun 23, 2017

the corsair VS series usually gets panned here in toms so someone here will point that out. personally i have used a couple for vs450s in my netcafe that has been pushing more than 5 years old. but i would look for something better if i were to choose for a PSU for my own rig. try looking for this: seasonic s12ii-520 or the 620w version.

thom315c · Jun 23, 2017

wh3resmycar :

Thanks for your input, found the 620w on a danish website, im currently considering how to get the money ^^

thom315c · Jun 23, 2017

Found another 1070,
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming
this one is 75$ cheaper, however MSI apparently has some promotion going on in Denmark, so i will get 40$ "Cashback"? Don't know if its worth it to "downgrade" just to save 25$

wh3resmycar · Jun 23, 2017

i'll get whichever is cheaper. i'm from a different school of thought. the most expensive gtx1070 and the cheapest gtx1070 will become obsolete at the same time.

maxalge · Jun 23, 2017

thom315c :

all 1070's behave the same as long as it has a decent cooler

get the cheaper one

thom315c · Jun 24, 2017

Should i consider possible complications regarding the installation of the GPU? Or is it "universal" and will fit in every PC, with every motherboard?
Just making sure, as the only thing i have added to my pc, since i bought it, has been 2x4gb ram, which was awfully easy.
Other than that i am very thankful for your assistance, and will buy the equipment within the next days, hopefully the whole thing will go smooth.

maxalge · Jun 24, 2017

thom315c :

case size is what matters, motherboard pcie slot is universal, also you need to make sure the power supply has the proper pcie cables

you need to open the case and measure the inside space for max gpu length

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so make sure the gpu is small enough to fit

thom315c · Jun 28, 2017

maxalge :

thom315c :

case size is what matters, motherboard pcie slot is universal, also you need to make sure the power supply has the proper pcie cables

you need to open the case and measure the inside space for max gpu length

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so make sure the gpu is small enough to fit

Alright, one last thing, i half-decided to choose the more expensive msi, mostly because i have bad experience in buying the cheaper one and then regretting it. Then however, it was sold out.... which is currently tilting me pretty hard, literally impossible to buy in denmark, unless you want to overpay 80$ extra.. Crazy -.-
The EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming will be in stock 7/7 though, so thats something.. And its the cheapest one. Also it says recommended PSU "500 or higher". I thought maybe i could try to use my own 500, save the extra 80$? Then maybe i could run a test of how it works on my rig, and possibly message you or something?

(Curiosity question):
Why are there so much difference in price between different 1070, is it just because they overclock it for you? Or is it pure material quality, brand, etc?

Sorry for all the fuss, but i want to get this right ^^

maxalge · Jun 28, 2017

thom315c :

your psu is pretty crap, you need to upgrade it

the prices vary because of components, like the air cooler, and yes because they OC for you

they all behave the same, as long as it has a half decent cooler

TechUnited · Jun 28, 2017

Its either replacing the gpu to the msi gpu and have a unstable system, or get the cheap evga gpu, and better psu then get good performance
Unlike my brother in law who got the 1080 ti with a crappy psu and fryed the damn thing.

thom315c · Jun 28, 2017

Alright, you guys convinced me.. While im not thrilled about it know, i probably will be later, knowing that i wont have to worry for my systems "Health".
However, the one (wh3resmycar) recommended, cant be bought here, i found it, but its only for other businesses.
So i tried looking for another, and found the same series i have now, just in 600W.
Its on the same webshop as the cheap evga, so it would be very convenient.
But i dont know if you think my PSU is crap because of the W or the series/brand?

(This is the one: Cooler Master B600 VER.2, 600W PSU)

EDIT: An opportunity to buy it came, so i did it, hopefully its a decent purchase, thank you.

Wish me a smooth installation!
And thanks again

EDIT 2 (jesus christ..): When i ordered it, i got the notice that it would first be in stock 19/7... Hell no i aint waiting 3 weeks... So found another site, but with other products.. ordered it, should be here within some days.
The products:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Windforce 2X 8GB
EVGA BQ Semi-Modular 600Watt 80 PLUS Bronze
Its too late now, but still wouldnt mind hearing your opinion on them.

thom315c · Jun 30, 2017

Picking solution now, as a celebration ending, see this screenshot

Thanks again

https://i.imgur.com/BbHAtWl.png

TechUnited · Jul 10, 2017

wohooooo! you did it!

Underperforming Nvidea GTX 960 + Suggestions regarding possible replacement

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