AMD FX-8320 at 206 Degrees?

Samuel_109 · Jun 24, 2017

So I keep getting FPS drops on my PC, especially on a game called ARMA 3. I couldn't pinpoint the issue so I downloaded Open Hardware Monitor to see if things were overheating.

These were the results: http://prntscr.com/fnn38o

Should I be worried? What can I do to prevent this? and what can I do to stop FPS drops?

elbert · Jun 24, 2017

Whats your heatsink and have you tried reapplying thermal paste? If its stock you may want to get a better heatsink. Here is a cryorig H7 that should get the temps under control. Make sure your case is large enough for H7(5.71 inches).

Know tho if your overclocking just try setting it back to stock.

Samuel_109 · Jun 24, 2017

elbert :

Bit of a PC noob so not sure what my heatsink is and I wouldn't know how to reapply thermal paste.

clarkjd · Jun 24, 2017

I suspect that that is a false reading. Your CPU will start thermal throttling at 100, and go into self protection shutdown shortly thereafter. Try a different monitoring program, like HWInfo 64.

Samuel_109 · Jun 24, 2017

clarkjd :

http://prntscr.com/fnnpfw

This is the reading on HWInfo

madmatt30 · Jun 24, 2017

Yeah those temps are plainly inaccurate.
At 200c your PC would have been non for by now.

Download amd overdrive , check thermal margins .

elbert · Jun 24, 2017

Samuel_109 :

Yup hes right I thought that was an 206F for about 100c. The 200c has to be incorrect.

Your motherboard may need a bios update if using other temp readings are wrong.
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/760GM-P23-FX.html#down-bios

Also try speedfan to see if reads correctly.
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Samuel_109 · Jun 25, 2017

elbert :

Samuel_109 :

Yup hes right I thought that was an 206F for about 100c. The 200c has to be incorrect.

Your motherboard may need a bios update if using other temp readings are wrong.
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/760GM-P23-FX.html#down-bios

Also try speedfan to see if reads correctly.
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

http://prntscr.com/fnxaa8

This is the reading from Speedfan. Im guessing this is more accurate.

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

As suggested by madmatt30 use AMD Overdrive to check the thermal margins at full load. 206°C may be correct if the VRM overheats; it sets the CPU temperature very high causing it to throttle and the frequency drops to 1.4 GHz. The negative effect is that FPS also drops. There isn't much that you can do to prevent that issue with the 760GM-P23 (FX).

Samuel_109 · Jun 25, 2017

GhislainG :

So I can't do anything about this issue?

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

Sure you can; buy a better motherboard that can fully support your CPU at full load. Is your case ATX or micro-ATX?

Samuel_109 · Jun 25, 2017

GhislainG :

No sure, as I said before in this thread I am pretty noobish at PCs. What motherboard would be suitable for this CPU?

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

We first need to know what case you have; are you limited to a micro-ATX size motherboard? Does your case have 4 or 7 slots in the back? If 7 slots (ATX), then an Asus M5A97 R2.0, the new Asus 970 PRO GAMING/AURA and the MSI 970 GAMING would be fine.

madmatt30 · Jun 25, 2017

GhislainG :

Aaaargh,I never saw the board he was using before.
Yes thats MSI's downright underhand way of speccing their board as fine to run an 8320 so they can still sell them & then purposefully throttling it becasue in reality they know its not good enough.

Those dirty tricks from the amd range is the reason I will not buy any MSI product again no matter how good its deemed to be.

elbert · Jun 25, 2017

Samuel_109 :

everything looks ok on speedfan but that Temp3 is odd as there are 2. I've looked and cant find what part if any that is. You maybe should use a small 90mm case fan to point at chipset to see if it changes. If not point it at other locations for sensors track down what that is. On the 206c seems there are lots of reports on the issue and many think the board may not be totally FX compatible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3swplw/my_cpu_temperatures_go_up_to_a_200_c_for_just_a/

I suggest get a good 970. Here is decent one. Mine has done great for over 6 years. Just get the latest bios.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: ASRock - 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $76.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-25 12:32 EDT-0400

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

The ASRock - 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX is another motherboard with a 4+2 phase VRM that will also throttle the CPU at full load. The much better ASUS 970 PRO GAMING/AURA doesn't cost much more and it's a better and newer motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132713&cm_re=asus_aura-_-13-132-713-_-Product

Samuel_109 · Jun 25, 2017

GhislainG :

My Case is a NZXT Source 220 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Window Side Panel USB 3.0

elbert · Jun 25, 2017

Na the VRM count isn't everything. The quality of the VRM's also are important. Long as you dont push it to FX-9000 levels it does good. If you want that level of VRM step upto the 990fx instead.

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

Samuel_109 :

It's an ATX case; therefore you could install a motherboard like the Asus 970 PRO GAMING/AURA.

madmatt30 · Jun 25, 2017

Got to agree , the asrock 970 pro & extreme are not good boards for an 8 core , they can suffer extreme throttling too.

The extreme is a pro with a vrm heatsink near as dammit , nothing extreme about it (xtremely mediocre maybe)

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

elbert :

It has no problems with your CPU, but it can throttle when installing an FX CPU. http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Extreme3%20R2.0/index.fr.asp?cat=CPU As you can see, ASRock recommend a top-down blower style cooler even for a 95W FX CPU. If I were the OP I'd stay away from that motherboard.

madmatt30 · Jun 25, 2017

MSI 970 gaming $82 , if he's USA it's a good choice of board.

GhislainG · Jun 25, 2017

madmatt30 :

That was on my list, but I'd buy the newer Asus Aura that barely costs more because many buyers had an issue with the MSI that caused their CPU to be stuck at 1.4 GHz. I presume that it rarely occurs and MSI replace the motherboard under warranty.

elbert · Jun 25, 2017

GhislainG :

That was kind of the deal with all motherboards with FX. AMD started suggest top down blowers due to reviews showing high heat like this one. http://techreport.com/review/29691/amd-wraith-cpu-cooler-reviewed
This by the way is a GA-990FX-Gaming.

No matter which motherboard you should have good down pointing cooling with FX.

madmatt30 · Jun 25, 2017

Yeah but the fact is the more physical vrm's the more the load is spread & the better stability, less heat per module.

The gigabyte ud3p has 8 phases for CPU (double that of the asrock boards) , it was for many (me included) the best 970 series board ever produced when it came to overclocking 8 cores.

970 board prices seem to have gone up not down for some reason , maybe out of production nowadays ??
Although I thought the fx chips were actually still in production although not to the extent before ryzen.

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