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Herc08

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This is NOT the best bang for your buck. $400 for a GTX 1060? An i5 processor? $123 for a 650 last-gen power supply?

This is just too much money to be spent. First off, you want to switch to Ryzen 5 1600. Those extra cores and threads will go a long way. Also, getting a decent GPU isn't the best right now. Why spend $400 on a card when it should be around $250? That's a complete ripoff. You can use the savings towards a GTX 1080 and never have to worry about performance again. Best part is, Ryzen comes with a great cooler for some moderate overclocking.

Side note, this is coming from an Intel supporter. I'm not bias, just a realist, and someone who belives in spending money without wasting it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($524.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1120.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-27 09:38 EDT-0400
 
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Chugalug_

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Can easily be improved a tonne.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($704.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1224.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-27 09:47 EDT-0400

Cheaper version, chuck a 960 Evo in if you want an SSD.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB XLR8 Video Card ($549.99 @ Dell Small Business)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1069.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-27 18:08 EDT-0400
 
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Mike3k24

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This build would beat your build by a crap ton
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card ($468.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1186.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-27 10:03 EDT-0400
 
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Herc08

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Just make sure to include parts that are in stock. That 1080 is out of stock, and is over priced on Amazon.
 
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geofelt

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Everybody seems hot to trot on ryzen.
They are mesmerized by the many threads available.
Such was the case with FX-8350 which did not turn out all that great unless you were a AMD stockholder.
Fact is, few games can make effective use of more than 2-3 threads.
The exception is multiplayer games.
For most games, single core speed is what counts.
Ryzen overclocking tops out around 3.9, less for the cheaper units.
And, the IPC is perhaps 15% less than kaby lake.
As of 2/23/17
What percent of samples can get an overclock
at a vcore around 1.4v.
I5-7600K
5.3 samples exist, unknown % of occurence
5.2 13%
5.1 27%
5.0 52%
4.9 72%

Either processor will do the job so long as the graphics card is the limiting factor. GTX1060 for example.
Once you get into GTX1070 and higher, the cpu becomes more important.
On your revised build, I think GTX1080 would be appropriate.

On your first list, I have a few suggestions:

1. Hyper212 is popular and a sufficient cooler. But, it is not so easy to install.
I would suggest the $35 scythe kotetsu which is quieter and performs better but not well known.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Scythe_Kotetsu

2. Supernova G2 is a tier 1 unit on this list; plenty for even a GTX1080ti:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
If you will give up gold rating and modular, you can buy a tier 2 Seasonic S12II 620w for $50
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096

3.
I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games.
But, many things default to the "C" drive.
When a SSD nears full, it will lose performance and endurance.
240gb is the recommended minimum.

If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

You can defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.

Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.
 
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Herc08

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Well I always love your thought out post, and I respect your opinion, I hope you can respect this one. I am also a strong believe in leaivng the AMD/FX train, however, they really did step up their game with Ryzen. Not to mention, they FORCED Intel to released more chips in their X299 board.

I have to say that this Ryzen build is just great, but it depends if Intel will release something in a few years (2019, 2020) to have Ryzen die.

However, the title is "best bang for buck" and right now the 1600 is the better OVERALL value. It has an upgrade path to a 8-core processor that delivers where the 7700K cannot. Again, I am a strong Intel supporter (stopped using AMD years ago). Sure Kaby Lake will beat in a single threadded performance against Ryzen, but it's not enought to justify spending an extra $50. It is not visually noticeable (without the use of a FPS counter) I don't see the big deal. Not to mention, it can handle multi-tasking quite well.
 
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Zerk2012

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Much better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($328.10 @ PCM)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.39 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1186.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-27 11:52 EDT-0400
 
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