Buying a new PSU and Case

Nikola1123

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So I did some upgrades recently and now I want to switch up my case and psu

Currently I have

Ryzen 5 1600X
GTX 1070
16GB RAM
MSI b350m Mortar
Cooler is Windale 6 but I should get brackets for my EVO 212 soon and will place that instead

Case is Thermaltake V5 Black and PSU is XFX TS 650 WATT

The reason I want to get new ones is cause the case is causing many problems with everything feeling clogged up in it and very little freedom for cable management.

The PSU I want to swap cause this one is loud as all hell.

So I would like some recommendations from you guys.
What would be a good PSU that makes very little to no noise but could run what I got and what case would you recommend to keep it all nice and neat?

Budget would be around 200$ I guess but I am still not sure.
Optimally I would like the cheapest option that still meets the criteria
 
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I have a similar system specs wise though I went with a mobo for overclocking and I did go 750. Is it an overkill? Absolutely. But I also factored in that I still might try sli at some point, that I might switch up both gpu and cpu for something higher a few years down the road etc. In other words I got it so that it is pretty generous on future upgrades of any sort and fully modular. It is also gold efficiency which means actually approaching the advertised wattage, and a lot less heat generation. If they had the RM550x version on there I'd say go for it but as they don't, that would be a good choice.
Up to you, this will probably be limited by your budget. If you can afford it, I would definitely recommend it, after having fried two...

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The 1070 needs a 500 watt PSU
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1070/

For the budget limited, I'd start looking at at the Seasonic S12 / M12 series and adjust upward based upon the case you want to get.

Seasonic S12 520 - $40 (9.7 jonnyguru rating) - Note that the Seasonic 520 watter is also sold as the XFX Core Edition 550 and Antec HCG
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze

Seasonic S12 620 is a bit beefier and costs $48
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze

The M12 is the modular version of the above

Seasonis M12 520 - $55
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze

The M12 620 watter is outta stock but last week it was on sale so should be back soon.

Other models to look at would be the EVGA Gs, G2 and G3, Seasonic SSR, Antec HCG

As for the case .... this is harder to recommend as aesthetics is a personal choice. Phanteks has taken the Case of the year award homw from Computex for several years running. Their feature set us unmatched in many price ranges tho many are emulating their designs. And their fans are the best on the market.

If your building a box for an office, or for grandma to look at pics of the grandkids, I would agree the case is of little importance other than aesthetics. However, being able to fit you want in it, the ability to cool the components, the ability to route wiring without creating an unattractive bird nest of wires is usually of some importance in a work station or gaming box. And as was said already, aesthetics is an individual choice.

Of course fo those keen on showing off their build, the tempered glass models are on everyone's mind.

The Enthoo Luxe TG has spiked a bit of late and at $180, puts you at least $20above the $200 limit. If ya can swing it, it is an astounding case. Without the TG, the case is about $150

Th Enthoo Evolv is the case in everyone's mind of late.... on youtube there's a dozen videos calling it the "best case in it's price range and some even stating it "belongs in an art museum" for its aesthetics. The TG version is also about $180 ... the regular window version is $139 to $179 depending on color

The Enthoo Pro runs $80 - $100

The Enthoo Pro M runs $70 - $90 /. The Acrylic side panel model is $80 and the TG model is $105 or so



With Say $40 - $60 spent on the PSU, that leaves you
 

Sedivy

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For that system I also give a thumbs up for enthoo pro m. The bigger ones are I think too big for what you need, but the pro M is a very roomy case for a midtower, and has very good airflow. If you can swing TG edition, looks even better. I also like corsair's 450D and CM's mastercase pro 5 for similar reasons.
 
bah .... I shuda provided that info :)

They are all the same width, depth is relatively unimportant and vary less than 2". Height wise the difference is up to a hair over 3". For the Enthoo Luxe however, this height provides one of its most important features. In many instances, the installation of radiator at the top of the case is hampered by interference with the Motherboard heat sinks. The Luxe provides an "attic" to install the radiator fans and accounts for most of its added height. The Evolv, currently Phanteks most awarded and most talked about case, is just 0.6 inches taller

Best case on the market ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdRlHMkZS8Y

Case of the year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfRDSGlNqI

Case Swap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE

Enthoo Pro M
Dimensions (H x W x D) = 18.90" x 9.25" x 19.70"

Enthoo Pro
Dimensions (H x W x D) = 21.06" x 9.25" x 21.65"

Enthoo Evolv
Dimensions (H x W x D) = 19.50" x 9.25" x 20.10"

Enthoo Luxe
Dimensions (H x W x D) = 22.04" x 9.25" x 21.65"

Oddly enough, the Evolv is the only one that I don't have experience with. A user has had a planned build for over a year in a silver Evolv ... 1st put off waiting for the MSI Xpower Titanium Z270 MoBo and now waiting for the MSI 1080 Ti Seahawk
 

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Rather partial to the Fractal Design cases as well as the offerings from Phanteks. The Focus G is/was less than $50. If you really just want tons of space the FD R5 is seriously huge for a mid tower and quiet besides.

Not gonna bother mentioning psu, everyone else already has.
 
At 2 cents, jay should be arrested for gross overcharging... in the midst of his review, he says he was an idiot and I can't help but agree. At the 3:29 mark we see his build with three fans on a radiator EXHAUSTING air out of the case. Anyone with the slightest knowledge about water cooling knows this is a huge no-no. Oh he had a horrible negative pressure situation... yeah big surprise. Install all radiator fans as intakes and there is no problem with this or any other case.
 

Nikola1123

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Well as I do not plan on going liquid cooling I do not think I need to worry about such things.
However I think I will go with the FRACTAL DESIGN Define S as I like the simple look.

As for the PSU I am still unsure.

The EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G3 seems nice but I can't find it anywhere in Croatia. Honestly a lot of the ones sold near me don't seem to top any charts without killing the bank.

https://www.hgshop.hr/napajanja/513

The site is in croatian but could you guys look through the list to see if anything stands out?
This is where I will buy the case and if I can find a PSU there as well I can save on some money
 


Says who ? What testa re you drawing on ? What tests were performed ? "major turbulence" and "hot spots" are mutually exclusive.

We use a fog machine (Chauvet 700) to test air flow. Test rig has two rads (420 and 280), 6 thermal sensors and 6 channel digital display accurate to 0.1C and can mount up to 16 fans. (10 rad and 6 case)

2 intake fans and 4 exhaust fans and one of those exhausts has no radiator or filter to restrict air flow ... .... great idea ! And he wound up with negative pressure ... Joe Pesci said it best here at 0:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUMM9W61vk8

He talks about all the tiny slots.... but its all about "open area" and a typical case with a 6 x 12 perforated steel panel has no more open area than this does.

look at a review from a respected source (11:45):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dnvpFZ64hI

I almost spit coffee all over my keyboard when he said "I changed the rear fan to intake" ... great idea !... lets take more dust and all all that hot exhaust from that 850 WATT PSU and suck all that right back into the case.
 

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How are major turbulence and hot spots mutually exclusive? Turbulence traps hot air from exiting the case properly, thus creating hot spots. Is there a different definition from this?
I watched your video and while a good review of the itx version, it does not explain what thermal performance of this case is which is the question here.
As for the test you mention, you are talking about 16 fans. Presumably then this is a completely different case and you have plenty of both exhaust and intake fans to even out the airflow, so you're not running into the same issue.
The video I linked he talks about reversing the exhaust fan because at that point he's desperate, as the temps are pretty high and of course it doesn't help. Yes he also has negative pressure issues, but as you see, this case doesn't give you many options. How is running both radiators on intake, with only one exhaust fan supposed to help? Where is the flow?

To the original poster, you have corsair's cx series on there which should be ok as a budget pick, though bronze rated and not my first choice. Also,
ako mozes da nadjes nekoga ko putuje redovno u hrvatsku, da ti donese psu sa sobom, to bi bilo bolje rijesenje. Ovdje je shipping jeftin, a cesto su cijene iz nekog razloga jeftinije za elektroniku nego sto bi bile tu lokalno. Ne znam zasto, ali znam da sam cesto nosila dijelove ljudima preko bare, upravo radi ovog razloga. Ako ne mozes nikoga da nadjes i neces da tako dugo cekas na to, corsair-ovi su ok.
 

Nikola1123

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Since I don't know if the site mods care about what language is used I'll stick to English.

From the reviews that I have seen it doesn't seem to be too good.
It still makes a decent chunk of noise and life expectancy doesn't seem that big.
Some people are advising me to go over the budget and get the CORSAIR RM750x but that seems kinda like an overkill no?
 

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I have a similar system specs wise though I went with a mobo for overclocking and I did go 750. Is it an overkill? Absolutely. But I also factored in that I still might try sli at some point, that I might switch up both gpu and cpu for something higher a few years down the road etc. In other words I got it so that it is pretty generous on future upgrades of any sort and fully modular. It is also gold efficiency which means actually approaching the advertised wattage, and a lot less heat generation. If they had the RM550x version on there I'd say go for it but as they don't, that would be a good choice.
Up to you, this will probably be limited by your budget. If you can afford it, I would definitely recommend it, after having fried two builds long ago with inadequate and low quality psu's that it's absolutely worth the extra few bucks of investment.
 
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Nikola1123

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Well I guess that settles it, fala na pomoći^^