Want to build gaming PC for 60000 INR

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Approximate Purchase Date:
by the end of next week

Budget Range:
60,000 INR (total budget)

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming, watching movies, video editing

Parts Not Required:
(keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
amazon.in, flipkart.com

Country: India

Parts Preferences:
CPU i5-7500, GTX 1060Mini, WD Blue 1TB, Corsair's 8GB DDR4 2400 Mhz

Overclocking:
Maybe, I don't know it's importance and where it is useful?

SLI or Crossfire:
No, I don't use multiple monitors, I prefer single large one instead of multiple monitors

Monitor Resolution:
1920x1080p, LG 23"

Additional Comments:
I'm a laptop user till now, now I want to build my very own desktop PC. The reason I have mentioned some parts preference above is because those are the things only I considered before making any laptop purchase but to build a PC i need some more components which I have no idea about their entire purpose/usage.

My biggest confusion I'm having with choosing a MoBo .I have read articles about 'how to choose a motherboard' etc. But the question is which one I have to choose within my budget?

Using above articles, youtube videos I noted following MoBos..

Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2 LGA 1151 7th Gen F20 Updated BIOS Motherboard - INR 4525

Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Motherboard (Supports Intel 7th & 6th Gen Processors, LGA 1151, 4xDDR4 DIMMS upto 64GB RAM, Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA interface, Intel Optane Memory Ready, D-sub,DVI-D, HDMI, PCIE 3.0, USB 3.1, Ultra Durable, VR Ready) - INR 8400

Asus Z270F Strix Gaming - LGA1151 - 7th Generation MotherBoard - INR 16200

These motherboard's starts with 4K to 16K and I really have no idea which one serves my purpose. Some says contains built in wifi and bluetooth controllers, PCIe have more ports etc. etc..

Do I have to really consider those things or not. I can get some wifi extensions like that but what is their purpose on board.

Also, do I need cabinet coolers, Processor coolers or any inbuilt comes. Also , the sound card.


P.S. Consider I'm a user who never uses desktop but laptop. Please help me choosing right parts to save my budget and improve performance.
Thank you.
 
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i would suggest something like this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (₹16200.00)
MOBO: Asrock Pro4 B350 ATX (₹5806.00)
RAM: Team T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (₹4000.00)
Other: Shipping+Duty (₹3947.00)
HDD: WD caviar blue 1tb (₹3799.00)
PSU: Antec VP450P 450W Power Supply (₹3299.00)
CASE: Corsair Spec 03 ATX (₹4500.00)
Total: ₹41551.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-28 15:43 IST+0530

as u can notice, the only component missing is GPU. u have ~19000 bucks for the gpu. if it was 2 months ago, a rx580 or gtx1060...
i would suggest something like this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (₹16200.00)
MOBO: Asrock Pro4 B350 ATX (₹5806.00)
RAM: Team T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (₹4000.00)
Other: Shipping+Duty (₹3947.00)
HDD: WD caviar blue 1tb (₹3799.00)
PSU: Antec VP450P 450W Power Supply (₹3299.00)
CASE: Corsair Spec 03 ATX (₹4500.00)
Total: ₹41551.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-28 15:43 IST+0530

as u can notice, the only component missing is GPU. u have ~19000 bucks for the gpu. if it was 2 months ago, a rx580 or gtx1060 would easily fit in that 19000. but due to euthereum miners, gpu prices have shot up and so i dont know wheather u will be ok with a less powerful gtx 1050ti like this https://www.mdcomputers.in/gtx-10-series-1021724175/zotac-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-gddr5-zt-p10510a-10l.html
 
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Can you please tell me how to consider motherboard. Like "if I need this than I would check these type of motherboards" ...

Also as per benchmarks Intel i5 has higher than amd.
 
if it was a 7600k cpu, then it makes sense. but when compared to a locked i5 like the 7500/7600, ryzen 1600 on a overclockable b350 mobo is definitely better. i would suggest the ryzen even over the 7600k since the ryzen has more compute power.

as to answer ur question, k series intel cpu r overclockable and require an overclockable z270 mobo. locked cpu requires a b250 mobo.
the h110 mobo has limited conectivity with poor thermal solution and requires a bios update if u r gonna use a 7th gen cpu.

click the partlist above to go to pcpartpicker website which will have links to the individual parts.
 

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Thanks. Also, Is there any need for sound card, coolers in my build or inbuilt coolers are fine. Because I read posts that CPU comes with inbuilt coolers.

Also, with your specs can I use my computer for 3-4 years with medium to high settings for gaming..?

Sorry, for asking much. This is my first time and I need to know so that it won't cost much in future.

Again, thanks for your valuable information.
 
the inbuil audio codec that comes with the mobo is enough for normal usage. ppl buy sound card if they r into sound editing/music production.

the ryzen 1600 is definitely a better CPU than even the 7600k. with 6 cores/ 12 threads, it will last longer than the 7600k. the 1600 and 7600k when oc'ed the fps diff is 10-15 max and thats cuz of dx11 or ryzen not being fully optimized. with dx12 n future patches, expect the ryzen to shine.

and yes, the 1600 comes with stock wraith spire cooler which is pretty good.

the only question that needs answering is if u r ok with a 1050ti in which case u can squeeze in a 240gb SSD. https://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226853

if u can get a 1060 6gb from anyother source with the remaining cash, thats great. but get the 6gb one, not the 3gb. u cant maxout graphics with 3gb vram in the upcoming games.
 

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If you are in India I suggest getting purchasing parts from physical retail stores/authorised retailers or ordering from Newegg. Almost all components on Amazon India are imported from US and the warranty on them can only be used by sending the parts to US, this is the same problem with Newegg but their prices are usually much cheaper than Amazon India or flipkart. You will also find retail stores cheaper too.

That is why all components on Amazon India have bad reviews, just cause of the pricing.

http://www.amazon.in/AMD-3-2GHz-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B06XNRQHG4?_encoding=UTF8&keywords=Ryzen%205%201600&qid=1498658494&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

I got a Ryzen 5 1600(on Lucky_SLS' adivce) for Rs. 15200 while the price listed on amazon is Rs. 17575.

Also since you also plan to do video editing then Ryzen is definitely better. Ryzen is also a better choice if your monitor is 1080P 60Hz cause with a good enough graphic cards, it will be able to hit 1080P and 60 FPS easily, you won't be able to see the added performance from Intel on your screen anyways.

For GPU, Ethereum has had a downfall and is likely to have a hard road to recovery so it's likely that further demand for GPUs will take a hit plus the miners who bought GPUs en masse will be reselling so supply on global market will increase a bit and going by news' from tech youtubers it seems both Nvidia and AMD are working to ship more GPUs soon. This indicates that there is a fari chance of the prices coming back to normal is a few weeks. If I were you I would wait for prices to fall. I understand very well that it can be frustrating but the difference between a 1050ti and 1060 6GB or RX 580 8GB is well worth the wait, it will enable you to play almost all AAA graphic intensive titles are med to HIGH setting for a few years.
 

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Yes gtx 1060 is very high price now in all major online stores. Also, I'll check in local stores before making purchase.

From the beginning onwards, I don't have much faith in AMD processors. My first laptop has AMD A8 and I can see much difference when compared to Intel i5 (with video editing and gaming) that's why I'm again checking with Ryzen 5 1600.

Also, in reviews they mentioned this processor is good for video editing but for gaming intel has more performance compared to 1600. If you know about both i5 7500/7600k and this amd Ryzen 5. Please suggest me (my 1st preference gaming and 2nd video editing)

If all good then I'll have Ryzen + GTX1060 in few more weeks.

Thanks for the information.
 
@priyank, yeah i do remember u now :)
OP, been that road before. my old laptop got a a10 7300 with r7 graphics. while the gpu is great, the cpu is the weaklink there. cant play dark souls 3 for more than 10 mins, overheats n shuts down.
but ryzen is not the same as the old a series. they r good. if u have a 60 hz monitor, u wont see a diff between 7600k and 1600 since both can deliver the same results upto 60fps. even a bit better since min fps and frame time variance is better in ryzen ;)
 

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So, finally I figured that I need
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (hope it will be better than intel)
GPU: GTX 1060


All I need to know which company GTX 1060 is good (msi,zotac,Asus, zigabyte ...)

For MoBo which one is good (mean what do I have to check before purchase)

Thanks
 

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I searched about the different GPU brands extensively online, one thing I learned was for Nvidia internationally EVGA is generally the best in terms of build quality and after service, of course individual cases could still differ. MSI Gaming X+ has the best clock speeds but again generally MSI service in India is rather poor. ASUS has a reputation for good build quality, it's after sale service in India is also apparently good. ASUS ROG Strix has some nice extra features(longer heat sink, 3 cooling fans) but ASUS cards are bit overpriced in India.

I wasn't able to wrap my head around all the parameters involved in a mobo, ultimately I made a chocie based on what has best reviews on newegg.com and amazon.com in my price range. I did manage to get a sense of the overall response most boards had. in B350, the MSI B350 Pro Carbon is apparently the overall best and also the priciest. Some things I learned to note while considering a mobo are:

>RAM compatibility: How many sticks you want and from which manufacturer. Plus, Ryzen has small benefits from higher RAM speeds but the Ryzen platform being very new, it's mobos have had to catch up with being able to run RAM at higher speeds(they all default to 2133 MHz and 2400, 2667, 2933, 3200, 3600 are available as OC) bios updates over the months from Feburary have been making the mobos better at being stable at higher and higher speeds but it is still something to check for the particular board. NOTE: If you are going for 1080P 60FPS this is again a very miniscule difference, the gain in performance from 2133 to 3000 is very very small.

>overclocking performance(for CPUs): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI (he summarises his rankings from 25:00 onwards)

>slots and support for peripherals: how many PCIe devices other than the GPU you want to plug in(sound card, wlan adapter, etc.) now or in the future, how many SSDs, how many fan and RGB headers it supports

>ratings and reviews on large sites like newegg, to see the general quality of each manufacturer's stock. This will NOT confirm whether the piece you get will be good or bad but it will give you a heads up in case if the one you are thinking of getting has been getting a lot of negative reviews.

Another thing is having dual bios support, a minor thing but since the Ryzen platform is new, keeping up with the bios updates would be a positive. Dual bios makes updating bios safer if you don't know what you are doing like me.
 

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Thank you.
 
asrock is a good company and one of the good models that is available at a good price is the pro4. thats the model that i included in the part list above. its has a m.2 slot if u need one and all the other standard ports. doesnt have any bling factor but at the price, its to be expected for a quality board.

regarding GPU like i said, the 1060 prices r sky high. no point in buying one now. waiting is the best choice if u want anything thats more powerful than a 1050ti.

but to answer ur question straight, asus has a good presense in india. so the asus dual oc model is the one to get if u can. then comes zotac, msi, evga. better to go for 2 fan model. other than that, ur choosing will depend on the clock speeds of the card.
 

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Hi,

Thanks again to both.

So, based on your responses I'll wait for GPU until prices drop and fixed for AMD processor (Ryzen 5). In one of your replies, you have mentioned that inbuilt audio codec are good but in laptops I can see that they mentioning like 'dolby' or 'beats' audio. So, if this is the case how can I get these type of sound in my new built (what to purchase?)

I have 1080px60HZ monitor. Like @priyank said 'is it really need to go for 3000MHz RAM or 2133MHz is good?

Is it good to go for higher power supply PSU (like 550W)?
 
dolby and beats offer a customized speaker optimizations.not audio codec. the inbuilt audio codec on the low-med range r usually realtek and r good. the gigabyte gaming 3 has a higher version of that audio codec.

a 3000mhz rams will give u as much as 5fps min fps gains, thats huge. and a abt 10fps max fps gains, that matters if its a 144hz monitor.

regarding GPU, if u can buy everything this winter, look forward to the AMD Vega GPUs.

a 550W like the antec vp550p http://www.amazon.in/Antec-VP550P-550-Watts-PSU/dp/B00565RGQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499170732&sr=8-1&keywords=antec+vp550 would be useful if u r going to upgrade to a 150W+ GPU like the custom versions of the Vega cards from asus, msi.
 

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Hey,

Today I went to the local store and I got below quotation from them. Could you please check and tell me if any changes needed (I will again go to that store on Monday).

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Mother BOard: GIGABYTE GA-AB350-Gaming 3
RAM: Coarsair 3000MHz (8GBx2)
HDD: WD BLUE 1TB
PSU:Cooler Master 500W
Graphic Card: Zotac mini 6GB GTX 1060


My concerns are: PSU and RAM brands changed (based on your suggestion). Those are okay or any other good brands are there?

Graphic card is okay, is it similar to MSI Gaming X(suggested by you earlier) or any difference.

One more thing, could you please tell me how to check how many USB 3.0 Ports I will get with that configuration, because shop guy told that 1 USB3.0 available to the cabinet but is that only I will get or any other ports?
 
Cabinets have front USB headers. The no of USB 3.0 in the front is decided by the cabinet and whether the mobo has the required no of 3.0 connection pins. U will still have some 3.0 in the back.its just 1 in mid to lower level mobo n cases.

The ram seems good. The psu model is missing. Usually the good quality 500w ones costs ~6k here. The cheapest good quality available here is antec vp 450p. If u can get corsair cxm450/550 or the new cx550 2017 version, that's great. Don't go for 500w version. Seasonic s12 520w is also a good choice if available.

Regarding GPU, that's a mini version. Might not be factory oc'ed like the gaming X. So expect a 5fps drop. That's it.
 

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Thanks. If I wait one or two months will that AMD Vega cards available in this price range(?). Also, how about AMD RX580 compared to gtx 1060 otherthan power consumption.

Also, I specifically asked him about 550w but they said 500w enough. Is there any specify reason for 550w.