AMD FX 8350 (quad core) vs AMD Athlon X4 860K (Octa core)

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

I want to buy a value cpu that will be quite good for gaming. I am about those two the

AMD FX 8350 (Octa core):https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Black-Vishera-Clock-Turbo-x/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1498731078&sr=1-2&keywords=AMD+FX-9590
and AMD Athlon X4 860K (quad core): https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Processors/AMD-Athlon-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/B00MU00IOQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1498732872&sr=1-1&keywords=AMD+Athlon+X4+860K

My motherboard: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01649KMZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Are those two cpu good for gaming? Is the octa core much better than the other one with double the price, is it worth ?

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

Major issues.... The fx 8350 is a octa core, but the link you have there is a fx 4300 which is a different CPU and quad core

Then the thing you have listed as an athlon is an 8350 which is a octa core but not different CPU from what you're calling it.

You don't have the athlon listed anywhere.

The two CPUs linked do share a socket and could be used on the same board. The two who's name you use are different sockets and require two different boards. The fx 4300 will run on any am3+ board the 8350 requires s good am3+ board or it'll run poorly due to overheating the board. The athlon 860k needs a fm2+ socket board

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

However unless you already own a fm2+ or am3+ board none of those options make sense gaming.

An Intel g4560, b250 motherboard and 8gb ddr4 ram will beat all 3 CPUs above

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

yes i messed up, i have udpated the question

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

In passmark software, that cpu has bad score,500+ but amd fx 8350 has 230 something. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

this is my motherboard: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01649KMZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

So none of the 3 CPUs you mentioned will work in that board. The one I mentioned will but will require a bios update (which will require a skylake CPU to be installed) to do so.

Never ever judge a gaming cpu by it's multicore passmark score. A 20core Xeon at 2.0ghz would outscore a 7700k too but that certainly doesn't mean the xeon makes a good gaming chip

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

so what value cpu do you suggest me under 150 pounds that is good for gaming? Also are those memories gonna work on that motherboard? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00TY6A1P0/ref=ox_sc_act_image_7?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

Okay so you have a motherboard... Do you have a working computer right now? Or just a board? My suggestion changes depending on your answer

Yes that ram will be fine

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

No, i plan to buy items one by one, i have not bought anything yet i want to make a fast pc that will be good for gaming under 600 euros. Do i need to spend 300 euros on a cpu? Btw i already have a graphics card amd rx 460. Also i will install a 250 gb SSD, if i install games on the ssd will they run faster? Because each game may be more than 50 gb.

Rogue Leader · Jun 29, 2017

That motherboard won't accept ANY of the AMD Cpu's you want. But thats a good thing, because they all are not worth buying.

That board does support the Intel i3-6100, i3-7100, and Pentium G4560, all FAR FAR FAR better gaming CPUs. The memory you selected will work with it.

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Rogue Leader :

well but i3 dude? As i remember i3 CPUS are low end.

Rogue Leader · Jun 29, 2017

csandreas1 :

Compared to an i7 yes. However in gaming all are way better than any AMD processor except the new Ryzen processors (which the board you want todes not support and are beyond your budget).

Ignore the passmark scores, they have nothing to do with gaming performance.

The Pentium G4560 is the best deal of them all, but if you can get a B250 motherboard over the H110 you are getting is a better idea.

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

Lol you're on a i3/Pentium budget. And the day the 4560 was released no AMD processor has any place in a gaming build. Ryzen has since launched so that's no longer true.

Actually since you haven't bought the board I'd suggest a r5 1400 it fits your budget. You'll just need to change to a b350 motherboard. However I highly suggest buying everything at once. Buying s part here or there leads to an old computer when you finish. And all you do is risk tearing some part up while waiting to buy the rest tech typically gets cheaper not more expensive.

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

i would rather not go for amd. What are your thoughts about i5 7500? Is this worth the 80-90 euros difference than the two other @rogue Leader mentioned?

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

It is but loses to the cheaper 1400 in some cases already. However it's over your 150 budget too. I still HIGHLY Suggest not building over time. If it takes you 2-3 months to get all the parts. A new Intel cpu line will be out, new gpu from both Nvidia and AMD and you'll be locked in to old stuff.

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

I will buy them all in once, so if i go for amd it is like 150 pounds though the g4560 is like 70. Why would i choose the ryzen you mention over the i5 7th generation?

Supahos · Jun 29, 2017

Just come back and ask for a build when you get your money together. The entire market will be different soon. Don't pick out parts months in advance

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Supahos :

okay thanks for your help, i think i will go for the
AMD Ryzen 5 1600
with GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Motherboard.

I got one question can i install an hdd sata 2 and ssd sata 3 ? Also the ddr4 memories are fine right?

Ecky · Jun 29, 2017

Check the memory support list for that motherboard. Ryzen is notorious for memory compatibility issues.

You should have no issues plugging in whatever hard drives you want.

csandreas1 · Jun 29, 2017

Ecky :

here is their website: http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-10#kf
The ram i want to install is this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00TY6A1P0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

helpstar · Jun 30, 2017

that´s no good RAM for Ryzen, for Ryzen you wanna have as much MHz as possible. At least 2400MHz, better 3200MHz

you should get 16GB (2x8GB) as well. if it´s a budget problem, you can get 2x4 now and again 2x4GB later

e.g. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HBjWGX/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m2a2400c16
or 16GB
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/J27CmG/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16

csandreas1 · Jun 30, 2017

helpstar :

why should i have more mhz on this cpu?

helpstar · Jun 30, 2017

because the native RAM frequency of the Ryzen is 2666MHz and performance will improve much more when using memory with more than 2666MHz

csandreas1 · Jun 30, 2017

helpstar :

I will go for the ryzen 5 1400. What ram do i need for this?

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