Ryzen 7 1800X fails stress test without OC

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I bought my system few days ago, tried to stress test with heavyload, and the program crashes after 20/30 seconds. I didn't overclock, the temp is always under 750 degree Celsius, memtest results were OK, GPU stress perfectly. I don't know what is the problem. Is it with the Motherboard or the processor? I updated to latest Mobo BIOS.
My system is:
Ryzen 7 1800X
GA-AB350 Gaming 3
32GB G-Skill 3200MHz
Aorus 1080 Ti
RM 850i
 
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AS YOUR BOARD IS GIGABYTE I DON'T NOW HOW TO DO IT SPESIFICALLY BUT UPDATE YOUR BIOS TO LATEST VERSIN AND

1-RESET YOUR BIOS TO DEFAULT SETTINGS AND RESTART IT

2-GO TO THE BIOS > EXTERME TWEAKER (IN ASUS'S MOBOS) > CPU CORE BOOST CHOOSE DISABLE.AFTER THAT THE CPU CORE VOLTAGE CAME LOWER AND THE TEMPS DROP

3-STRESS TEST YOUR BUILD AND SHARE RESAULT WITH US.

MY PROBLEMS SOLVED BY DISABLING CPU CORE BOOST , IT WOULD BOOST ONE OR TWO OF CPU CORES TO 4.00 OR 4.1 GHZ WITH HIGH VOLTAGES 1.48 OR 1.55 V SO THE SYSTEM NEVER WOULD BE STABLE (it's a XFR PROBLEM MAyBE it's gonna BE SOLEVEd IN FUTURE BIOS UPDATES.)

AND YOUR PERFORMANCE ROUGHLY GET 3 OR 6 PERCENT LOWER after disabling cpu core boost but tottally worth it.

you could tweak a little...
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Seanie280672

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Which version of prime are you using, try with nothing higher than 26.6
 
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b0xed009

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It's not only with prime. I can't render anything with blender too. CPU crashes. But the temp remains at 72-75 degree C

 
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b0xed009

b0xed009

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BIOS is up to date. RAM is not on XMP. Using CPUID HWMonitor. Used AIDA64 last time. It doesn't cross 75-degree celsius. AIDA64 also crashes instantly on FPU test. But it can stress for 3/4 mins the only CPU.
 
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b0xed009

b0xed009

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Tried it, same. Found out the auto voltage management has some problem. Cranked the the VCORE SOC voltage +0.102 and it's stressing on AIDA and prime 95. But still, can't render anything on blender.
 
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RAGNAR5

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AS YOUR BOARD IS GIGABYTE I DON'T NOW HOW TO DO IT SPESIFICALLY BUT UPDATE YOUR BIOS TO LATEST VERSIN AND

1-RESET YOUR BIOS TO DEFAULT SETTINGS AND RESTART IT

2-GO TO THE BIOS > EXTERME TWEAKER (IN ASUS'S MOBOS) > CPU CORE BOOST CHOOSE DISABLE.AFTER THAT THE CPU CORE VOLTAGE CAME LOWER AND THE TEMPS DROP

3-STRESS TEST YOUR BUILD AND SHARE RESAULT WITH US.

MY PROBLEMS SOLVED BY DISABLING CPU CORE BOOST , IT WOULD BOOST ONE OR TWO OF CPU CORES TO 4.00 OR 4.1 GHZ WITH HIGH VOLTAGES 1.48 OR 1.55 V SO THE SYSTEM NEVER WOULD BE STABLE (it's a XFR PROBLEM MAyBE it's gonna BE SOLEVEd IN FUTURE BIOS UPDATES.)

AND YOUR PERFORMANCE ROUGHLY GET 3 OR 6 PERCENT LOWER after disabling cpu core boost but tottally worth it.

you could tweak a little too but put voltages and ferquancies by your self and for longlife span don't go higher than 3.8 or 3.9 ghz and 1.35 volt or don't overcloack at all if you love your build :D.

 
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JV_58

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We have the same problem and decided today to stop selling this crap to our costumers. Ryzen platform is really bad. Anything above 70ºC and it becomes extremely unstable. No OC! It's unstable at stock speeds. 1700 are the worst, but the same happens with 1700X & 1800X.
 
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it's not the problem with Ryzen , the problem is in bios settings.
i have 1800x it was unstable but after disabling cpu core boost from bios system runs really stable.
and if you want overclock put the voltages yourself (not higher than 1.35) and fing the sweet spot of the chip.
 
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Hi, we've tried to disable core boost. Our 1700 on OCCT without overclocking now stands in the low 70ºs and crashes after 30 or 40 minutes . Before, with core boost enabled, it crashed much faster as it would get to 75ºC really fast. We're using the AMD boxed cooler. Ryzen is really not meant for people who want to do rendering or any intensive app. It gets too hot & will crash after one or two hours, even without OC. That's unacceptable. We'll now test the 1700 under clocking it (!) to check at what speed it starts to be stable & work at an acceptable temperature. Our room temperature is around 28ºC.

 
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RAGNAR5

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wow i don't know what to say my problem solved with disabling cpu coe boost. my temps are now 40' C idle and on full load 62' C with amd's wriat max cooler...maybe your cpu patches somehow have a manufactor production fault as most of them have problems.

before i disable core boost my idle temp was around 60 to 73' C and it would automaticly boost up to 4.1 ghz and crash on 3ds max and v_ray scene rendering or stress test or gaming and now it is compelitely solved. even one time i enable the active shader from 3ds max my pc doesn't boot up for half an hour...put power option to balance mode on daily base uses to run it on lower ferequancies

try to lower the voltages from bios (don't go higher than 1.35v) and see what will happen.

my voltage is on around 1.24 v on full load and it's stable. (3.6ghz)




 
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We've tried with six different 1700's, the problem always happens, although some are more prone to crash faster. Silicon is always different, on OCCT with boost disabled and no OC some 1700 dissipate only 69 to 70W other go to 75 to 77W. The worst ones (higher power consumption) get warmer faster. Temps rise slowly, when they get to 74 to 76ºC instability sets in and crashes happen.
 
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RAGNAR5

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what's their cpu vcore voltages ?

i think you're gonna able to putting it manually yourself.
it seems more software problem to me as hardware...
 
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