Is this first PC build good?

Cheese2face · Jul 4, 2017

Hi

I'm a newbie for PC builds and I wish to build my first PC but I don't know if it is worth the money or if it is good at all.
Please enlighten me.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KGKr8K

Thanks!

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

Do you really need a wifi adapter.

Cheese2face · Jul 4, 2017

King Dranzer :

Yes, my desk is really far from the wifi router!

skibo1219 · Jul 4, 2017

some new motherboards come with wifi built in, but also a bit more expensive than normal. Check the price of the motherboard you chose + the wifi add in card, VS. a motherboard with it built in.

Also, verify that the memory is on the motherboard QVL. You could get away with a 550 watt PSU.

I think you could build a better Ryzen system cheaper, depends on your purpose for this build.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£172.50 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£59.75 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£53.39 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£355.77 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£42.75 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.44 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£29.49 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus - VS248HR 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£116.29 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £918.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-04 13:56 BST+0100

Throw in second RAM stick in future.

GTX1070 gives you 50% performance improvement over GTX1050Ti.

SSD is not important for that budget. SSD only improves the load time and data transfer rate. There is no performance improvement with SSD. But if you want below is a good one.
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)

skibo1219 · Jul 4, 2017

If there had to be a choice between a SSD and a HDD, I would go with the SSD for a new system. If this is a gamer, go with the SSD.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

No CPU Cooler is required as Intel provides a good one.
That case comes with two fans included in it. If you you want you can throw one more but 3fans will be enough.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

skibo1219 :

Yes but then he would have to add HDD in future and as he will be adding second RAM stick he will be required to £90-10 for RAM+HDD instead of spending £50 for RAM only. This has to be decided by OP.

skibo1219 · Jul 4, 2017

just looked at the OP list again, there were a couple changes, one being a 500gb 850 EVO, LOL. I'm now thinking if he kept that 1TB HDD, go with a small 60/120gb SSD (basically just for the OS) if he can find one on sale for $60. The would be lass than the $140 for the EVO.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

240GB or 250GB SSD will be good for both OS as well as running the games we want.

Cheese2face · Jul 4, 2017

King Dranzer :

So you're saying that 25GB is enough for a PC build rather than 500GB

skibo1219 · Jul 4, 2017

Cheese2face :

120gb is good enough if you keep the 1TB platter HDD for storage.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

Cheese2face :

I mean 250GB is enough for OS some basic software and 2-3 games. When you get 240GB SSD the you will have to buy a 1TB HDD in few months otherwise that 240GB SSD will run out of space.

When on tight budget I recommend going for only SSD and adding HDD in future as it can be easily done and a HDD only costs £40 or go for HDD instead of SSD and skip the SSD entirely.

Cheese2face · Jul 4, 2017

Hi guys,

I have taken all your answers into account and have piled to together a new part list:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TRbqf8

Cheese2face · Jul 4, 2017

Hi guys,

I have taken all your answers into account and have piled to together a new part list:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TRbqf8

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

Using 120GB SSD only for OS and basic software is becoming meaningless. When we had Windows 7 or Windows 8 there was good gain from SSD in boot time. But with Windows 10 it has become meaningless as one could boot into Windows 10 from a HDD in around 10sec. Unless one plan on using SSD for improving load times in games or other intense stuff. SSD is practically not much useful as a boot drive.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

Cheese2face :

What part of huge improvement of GTX1070 over GTX1050Ti did you not understand. And as I said a CPU cooler is not required at all as the non K Intel CPUs comes with stock Intel cooler included in the box which is a very decent one. Going for 120GB SSD is meaningless. Go for 240GB one or skip it as it will be waste of money.

skibo1219 · Jul 4, 2017

I think you need more PSU headroom, 500w should do. unless you go with a 1070, then 550w.

As a gamer, do not discount the need for a SSD. The required size in combination with a large storage drive is always a huge debate everywhere, and it depends on intend PC usage. Since this is a mini build, I would guess HTPC with light to mild gaming, which means more emphasis on storage, with that I would agree you dont need a SSD, but with gaming, ya do need one. Its all personal choice really. dont just ask a couple people here, got other build forums too.

King Dranzer · Jul 4, 2017

skibo1219 :

Trust me 450W will be enough for GTX1070 even with OC. Done many builds in that combo. No need to worry.

SSD completely depends on budget so yes I agree that it improves load time of games but what good is a SSD if you are unable to fit in even 1-2games without compromise on other storage. With 30-35GB dedicated to OS. Bloatware, and other basic software eats-up 15-20GB so only 60GB remains which is not even enough to install game like GTA V. That is the reason I recommended him to go for 240GB SSD or simply go with 1TB HDD.

madmatt30 · Jul 4, 2017

FAR better use of your budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£76.40 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£123.60 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£88.88 @ More Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card (£194.97 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.80 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.44 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (£11.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus - VE247H 23.6" 1920x1080 Monitor (£114.00 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £908.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-04 16:34 BST+0100

skibo1219 · Jul 5, 2017

King Dranzer :

skibo1219 :

Trust me 450W will be enough for GTX1070 even with OC. Done many builds in that combo. No need to worry.

SSD completely depends on budget so yes I agree that it improves load time of games but what good is a SSD if you are unable to fit in even 1-2games without compromise on other storage. With 30-35GB dedicated to OS. Bloatware, and other basic software eats-up 15-20GB so only 60GB remains which is not even enough to install game like GTA V. That is the reason I recommended him to go for 240GB SSD or simply go with 1TB HDD.

having to choose one or the other is plain stupid, when you have have both.

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