High load temps with i5 4670k and aftermarket cooler

empirebeige

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Hi.

I'm a bit worried about my CPU temps under load. I've been thinking of overclocking my processor, because it's apparently well suited for that. I've tried overclocking in the past, but I've run into heat issues immediately. This is what I have:

- Core i5 4670K with Zalman CNPS7X LED cooler
- Asus Z87 motherboard
- 16 gigs of 1333MHz memory
- Antec high current gamer 620W power supply
- EVGA GTX 1070 for graphics
- Cooler Master Silencio 452 Case with added Typhoon 120mm fan in the front (shipped with one fan in front and one in the back)

My idle temperatures seem okay I guess (high 30s to 40 degrees). But running a Prime95 Blend test for a few minutes pushes the CPU temps to a bit above 80. Even in gaming the temps are in the high 70s.

From what I've read, these temperatures will not damage the CPU. But I guess I can't really think of overclocking if this is the baseline? I'm also wondering whether some throttling starts to happen with these temperatures in gaming.

In BIOS the CPU settings (voltages etc) should be at default. There is a general BIOS settings to switch between power saving and max performance, and I've set that to max performance. The CPU fan profile is at Turbo. The Zalman cooler came with an adapter for lowering fan speed, but I've left that out.

And finally, here's what I've already tried:
- Cleaning the case
- Removing the heat sink and dusting it off completely
- Replacing the thermal paste while making sure to clean off the old stuff
- Screwing the heat sink back on as tight as I could

The cooler does definitely react to temperature changes, and at 100% load it is running at nearly 2200 RPM. The only option coming to mind is getting another cooler, but I'm not sure about it because the Zalman should be a pretty capable device. It is around six years old, though.

I live in Northern Europe, so ambient temperatures don't get very high.

Thanks in advance for any replies!
 
Solution
At idle, I expect a well mounted cooler to run at 10-15c. over ambient.
Yours might not be functioning properly, or not level to the cpu when tightened down.
Possibly you have lost some of the heat transfer fluid in the unit.
Unlikely since they should be sealed.

If you use too much paste, it will act as an insulator.
A small rice sized drop in the middle is all you need.
It will spread out under heat and pressure.

Two 120mm intakes in front should be very good.
Verify that they are intakes by dangling a tissue in front to see the airflow direction.

Really, though,, I think you need a better cooler.
92mm coolers are noisy and not very effective.
I like the scythe kotetsu, a $35 unit in the US.
Here is a review...
At idle, I expect a well mounted cooler to run at 10-15c. over ambient.
Yours might not be functioning properly, or not level to the cpu when tightened down.
Possibly you have lost some of the heat transfer fluid in the unit.
Unlikely since they should be sealed.

If you use too much paste, it will act as an insulator.
A small rice sized drop in the middle is all you need.
It will spread out under heat and pressure.

Two 120mm intakes in front should be very good.
Verify that they are intakes by dangling a tissue in front to see the airflow direction.

Really, though,, I think you need a better cooler.
92mm coolers are noisy and not very effective.
I like the scythe kotetsu, a $35 unit in the US.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Scythe_Kotetsu
Other popular units would be cryorig H7 and cm hyper212.
 
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empirebeige

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When replacing the paste, I put a drop of it, maybe half the size of a pea, in the middle of the CPU. The new paste may have produced a slight improvement, but it's barely noticeable.

Great tip about the case fans. They are pulling in the piece of tissue, so everything seems to be OK there.

If I need a new CPU fan, I've been thinking of just going all the way and opting for the Noctua NH-D14. It should fit on my motherboard. I don't mind the price, since coolers are relatively inexpensive compared to almost all other components.

 

The NH-D14 is HUGE, and it can impact some ram coolers and a graphics card in slot 1.
I had one, and it did cool well, but I had to put a shim between it and my graphics card to prevent a short.

Look for the noctua NH-U12s or the NH-U14s.
The s variants are redesigned with an offset to clear graphics cards and tall ram.
 

empirebeige

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Good point. I also noticed that my case officially supports coolers up to 158mm in height, and that thing is 160mm.