Safe to sell PC with gray market key?

fiterpilot · Jul 6, 2017

Very simple question, would anything go wrong if I sell a PC with a Windows key I bought off the gray market?

atljsf · Jul 6, 2017

your question is gray as your assumption of a gray key in place, your reply ill be even be more gray, if not in violation of any forum rule

fiterpilot · Jul 6, 2017

atljsf :

I'm talking about keys you buy off of like kinguin.net. Also that made no sense at all

ARICH5 · Jul 6, 2017

atl is right. we dont give advice when it comes to grey market ie(stolen, unused) windows keys. microsoft is the ONLY dealer for windows10 keys.

fiterpilot · Jul 6, 2017

ARICH5 :

Honestly I feel that is very sad. There should be a lot more talk about it than there is IMO. And Microsoft isn't the only dealer, there are many more.

ARICH5 · Jul 6, 2017

we (tomshardware) had a long discussion about kinguin and the official stance is Buyer beware, use at your own risk. you know you can DOWNLOAD win10 for free then puchase a key in 60 days? i think 60days. or more.

fiterpilot · Jul 6, 2017

ARICH5 :

I'm sure you have. Personally have had no issues with it. Yes you can use Win10 for free as long as you like with very limited drawbacks. However that isn't what i'm asking.

USAFRet · Jul 6, 2017

fiterpilot :

That would cause me to discount my offer price $100. Take it or leave it.

What could go wrong? Next week, when the new owner wants to wipe and reinstall the OS...and the activation fails....he is going to be pissed off.

And for any used OS...the new owner really, really, really needs to do a full wipe and reinstall.
If you're selling the system with the OS as a line item...CPU/Case/GPU/RAM/OS..you need to give the new owner the license key and COA (Certificate of Authority).
If you're not transferring that to me....I consider it not a valid OS. I don't care where you got it from.
Hence $100 that I need to use to buy my own valid Windows OS.

As far as the site you mentioned....we could go into much detail as to why and how that is not valid.

ARICH5 · Jul 6, 2017

USAFRet :

fiterpilot :

That would cause me to discount my offer price $100. Take it or leave it.

What could go wrong? Next week, when the new owner wants to wipe and reinstall the OS...and the activation fails....he is going to be pissed off.

And for any used OS...the new owner really, really, really needs to do a full wipe and reinstall.
If you're selling the system with the OS as a line item...CPU/Case/GPU/RAM/OS..you need to give the new owner the license key and COA (Certificate of Authority).
If you're not transferring that to me....I consider it not a valid OS. I don't care where you got it from.
Hence $100 that I need to use to buy my own valid Windows OS.

As far as the site you mentioned....we could go into much detail as to why and how that is not valid.

i was just typing something along those lines.

USAFRet · Jul 6, 2017

You may ask why the new owner of a used system needs to do a full wipe and reinstall?

Because I don't really trust you. And I really, really, really don't trust your friends, and the person who owned that system before you.
Full nuclear wipe and reinstall of the OS.

I've seen far too many used systems with stuff from the prev owner still in there. Even from a big box store that was supposedly wiped.
Unless *I* do it, it does not count.
And without a valid COA, $100 off my offer price.

fiterpilot · Jul 6, 2017

I never said it was a used system. Could be brand new. But I get the idea. Just buy the key from microsoft when selling or don't sell with an OS at all.

USAFRet · Jul 6, 2017

fiterpilot :

Selling a "new" system with a grey market license?
That's an even worse idea.
That's like selling a "new" system with a grey market GPU, you bought from aliexpress for $20.

But yes....either valid OS with all the relevant stuff, or not at all.

fiterpilot · Jul 6, 2017

USAFRet :

Actually it's a LOT less serious than a gpu. Considering that you can get windows for free without pirating or anything. But I get the point

Appreciate the help and i'll keep this all in mind. No more cheap windows on new PCs lol

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