Problem with changing lan ip

AppaTheTechNoob

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So i wanted to port forward so I could have a game server of my own.

I need to port forward at my network operator to, but that's no big deal. The problem is that my network operator wants me to port forward ip adresses starting with 192.168.0. ... but my lan ip from the router is 192.168.1.100-... . So I tried to change the lan ip on my router but when i hit apply, it says that the ip can't be the same as the wan ip.
What is a wan ip and how can i change my lan ip to the ip my network operator can port forward?
 
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Since using coax cable internet than PPPoE is nothing you need to concern yourself with. It is not a pro or con, just something required for DSL connections that is not required for cable modems.

What is the actual model of your modem/router and I will look to see if it can be put into bridge mode.

If you are paying a rental fee for the modem it would be cheaper in the long run to buy your own modem. This will also often increase performance because even mid-range routers have better/faster hardware then the garbage in the ISP modem/router combo boxes.

If this is not an option then you are correct as port forwarding.
Set static IP for router 2. Forward ports on router 1 to router 2, then forward ports from router2 to PC.

Frankly...

AppaTheTechNoob

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My operator is Telenet in Belgium.
I am using the modem they gave us and my own tp-link archer 7 router. I had some trouble with NAT type before so i made sure that they are both the same(open).

Thank you for responding that quick ;)
 
Well open nat is one way to circumvent issue with port forwarding; like tearing down the exterior walls of your house because the lock on the door sticks.
When you go open nat you are allowing hackers and script-kiddies significantly easier access to your computer.

Best option (if that is avaliable) is switch your Telenet modem/router to be in modem only mode. Assuming telnet is a DSL isp then you will likely need your PPPoE login settings to configure that into the router (and set it as a PPPoE connection type instead of auto dhcp).

At that point you can have your archer router set to whatever subnet you want, and then just need to port forward it.
 

AppaTheTechNoob

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Thank you for pointing me out that open NAT is not safe. I am not familiar with PPPoE, could u explain me a bit how it works and how i need to configure PPPoE.
I can't change my telenet modem/router to modem only. Is it possible to configure PPPoE over standard dhcp on my tp-link router and not having interferrance with my telenet modem/router?
 
PPPoE is an authentication protocol that is used mostly for DSL, if you have coax cable for your ISP then you dont need to worry about PPPoE.

If you do have DSL the you need the username and password from your ISP, then you set the router's connection type to PPPoE and input the login information. You will likely also need Public IP, subnet and gateway address from ISP (again this is only if you have DSL.

What is your current modem/router, many can be put into bridge mode/modem only mode even if the tier 1-2 tech support at your ISP has no idea that it can.
 

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My modem/router is connected by coax cable, does this mean that PPPoE is not supported? Also my router/modem is not able to be set in bridge or modem only. I searched around and many people have complaints about it.
Now for the port forward, can i port forward the ports on my modem/router to my Wan ip of my tp-link router and port forward the same ports on my tp-link router to my pc's ip? Or do i put my tp-link router as dmz in the modem/router and port forward the ports on my router?
 
Since using coax cable internet than PPPoE is nothing you need to concern yourself with. It is not a pro or con, just something required for DSL connections that is not required for cable modems.

What is the actual model of your modem/router and I will look to see if it can be put into bridge mode.

If you are paying a rental fee for the modem it would be cheaper in the long run to buy your own modem. This will also often increase performance because even mid-range routers have better/faster hardware then the garbage in the ISP modem/router combo boxes.

If this is not an option then you are correct as port forwarding.
Set static IP for router 2. Forward ports on router 1 to router 2, then forward ports from router2 to PC.

Frankly though if you cant get a seperate modem then you should make your tplink router into an access point.
An access point turns it into an extension of your primary router, you can use the better wifi of the access point and its LAN ports but it will keep everything as 1 big network instead of 2, and most importantly you wont have to double port forward.
You are not gaining anything with second router as a router because you are still limited by the speed/capabilities of your modem/router box.
With the current dual router configuration you are just causing more delay/configuration by having to go through 2 WAN interfaces (and thus 2 NATs)

If tplink does not have an access point mode built in then setting it up is pretty easy:
Log into router 1 and change DHCP range to .100 - .254, also make sure wifi on router 1 is dissabled
Give tplink a static IP in the same address range as router 1 (so if router 1 is 192.168.10.1 then set tplink to 192.168.10.2), and set subnet to 255.255.255.0 and gateway to the address of router 1.
On tplink disable DHCP and reboot.
Then plug your cable from router 1 into the LAN port of tplink router.
 
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AppaTheTechNoob

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The modem/router combo has no specific model because it is made by telenet themself, as far as the bridge or modem only goes, i forgot that we still need the wifi connection for our first floor and ground level. So modem or bridge mode is not an option. Thank you for the confirmation on the port forward and the hint about the acces point, i will surely look at it.

Thank you overal for helping me and finding a solution! Greetings from Belgium!