New to all of this, PC Gaming and Building. Would like some Advice

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Hey guys, this is my first time building a pc and I feel like I'm in over my head. I can't quite remember where I found this build (pcgamer.com) I think. But here are my stats. What advice can you give a noobie?

Approximate Purchase Date:: I plan to purchase the computer once school starts, somewhere by the end of september/beinging of november.

Budget Range: My $2000-$4000, but hopefully I'd like get it under $3k. ANything in the $2k range is fine.


System Usage Digital media arts work, such as digitial painting, animating. and possiblly 3d sculpting. Next would be gaming, and after is

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, but not right now. Probably around Christmas time.



Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Do you need to buy OS: Yessir! Building the ocmputer from scratch.
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, amazon.ca)

Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Parts Preferences: no

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1024x768
Additional Comments: For the most part I plan to skype, use photoshop, Zbrush (3d Sculpting program), and toonboom, which is an animating program. Most Likely I would use these programs whilst watching playing a video file on the secondary screen. Next I would use the computer for gaming stuff like Xcom 2 and so on.


Okay guys, so here are the parts and their Canadian prices. Thoughts?


GPU: Geforce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB
RAM (32GB): Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 3200 C16 for DDR4 Systems
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO Series
PSU: - EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G3
COOLING: - Corsair Hydro Series H100i GTX High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
DVD DRIVE: - LG Electronics 24X Internal SATA without Software Super Multi with M-Disc Support,
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home | USB Flash Drive
MOBO: ASUS LGA1151 DDR4 DP HDMI DVI M.2 ATX Motherboard with onboard AC Wi-Fi and USB
CPU: Intel 7th Generation Core i7-7700K Desktop Processor
CASE: Thermaltake Suppressor F31 Window SPCC ATX Mid Tower Tt LCS Certified Ultra Quiet Gaming Silent Computer Chassis CA-1E3-00M1WN-00


So all in all, the total price of everything is $3500 after taxes and shipping. Thoughts?

If not, I was also just considering purchasing this unit here:Pre-built Amazon computer
 
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If yore insistent on going Intel i7 then ita a good bud with a few improvises.

1. You don't need the wireless network card , that board has it built in.
2.The 5tb drive is overpriced , go with 2x2tb or even 2x3tb drives, you're better with split storage for backup purposes , smaller platter drives tend to be more reliable & run cooler/quieter - they will also cost less.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/n2JwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-dt01aca300

3.For 32gb buy a matching kit of ram

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nZfmP6/gskill-memory-f43000c15q32gvrb
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your build is fine and it would perform better in games than on some multi-task softwares.

if you would do more modeling and rendering than gaming i would suggest that you would go with AMD'S brand new ryzen. i'm using one (amd ryzen r7 1800x and crosshair vi hero) if i should be frank with you the new amd ryzen is great at rendering and designing task's but when you speak about gaming it's not intel's solid 7700k.
and ryzen platform is new and have some issues:
it may not be able to go 4.0 ghz overclock stable.
there is some bios issiues.(base on what mobo you choose , newer bios version's dropping by)
and your ram ferequencies may run as low as 2100 mhz but if you know how to overclock you could get a little bit higher.


so it should be your decision if your gaming more 7700k but if you do more designing it's better to go with amd's ryzen but buy a good motherboard for ryzen.

read some reviews on amd's ryzen r7 1700 or r7 1700x or 1800x. but be sure you might have problems to run on frequencies on the reviews.

 
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How is that pc 3500?

Since you are moddeling and such I recommend a ryzen build as they excel more in this area. Do you mind going with amd if not I'll post a build.
 
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Christ mate your running a 1080 ti in that build while only owning a 1024x768 monitor!!!
I know you said that's likely temporary but still ??
Your monitor is also likely only VGA which means it's not going to work without active video adapters.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($280.25 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($125.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Toshiba - 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($699.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Thermaltake - Suppressor F31 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($19.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.95 @ Vuugo)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($24.15 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Dell - S2716DG 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($719.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2654.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-08 08:39 EDT-0400
 
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Thanks for the response. And holy hell, are these Canadian prices? Thanks man, you really helped me shave off quite a bit. And my monitor resolution is actually 1920x1200. Lol, sorry about that. Just checked it when I got back home. And it runs DVI to dvi or Hdmi to DVI. Something weird like that. Also, what's the difference between a GTX 1080 Ti 11 gb and the One you shared? And what about the ram? I keep seeing pc guides recommend ripjaws. Is the ram you listed any different?





Yeah, I dunno. I was using parts from a high end PC guide, and when I tallied everything a few weeks back the GPU alone was running me about $1600. But now the prices dropped to around $1000 each. If the actual price is as madmatt listed, then I can move my purchase date up to even before school starts back.
 
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^ I picked ryzen 1600 because it suits your needs perfectly IMO , & with the decent included stock cooler comes it at a huge amount less than an i7 k + aftermarket cooling.

Unless you're on the search for a 100htz+ screen then the i7 is imo an pointless buy nowadays.

& yea those prices are Canadian mate , bearing in Mind without that screen its below $2k cad .

The 1080 ?? Its some 20% weaker than a 1080ti which is reflected in the price.

The ti is only necessary if you're going for full 4k gaming mate.
If you're not the 1080 is absolutely enough for the next 2 or 3 years.

I'm one of those people that doesn't pick components for bragging rights or to spend a whole budget.
Buy the components that actually suit your needs now.
Spending unnecessarily on the most expensive & top of the line parts is non cost effective if you're not using them to their potential.
They lose value as soon as you open the box.
Should you come to upgrading in the future for any reason you will lose less money on the next tier down (as ive used) than the uppermost tier stuff.

That rig will do you for 3 years minimum without spending another penny IMO.
 
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Hey man, thanks for the advice, but going from this build what do you suggest? I really want to keep the 1080ti, but everything else can go.

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($419.99 @ Memory Express)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($132.24 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 GAMING M6 AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($280.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Toshiba - X300 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($202.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card ($1009.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Thermaltake - Suppressor F31 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.51 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($19.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($122.95 @ Vuugo)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($44.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $2967.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-09 19:36 EDT-0400

What do you think about it? I'm partial to using an i7 because I bought a graphics tablet-pc over a year ago that has an i7 processor, 512 ssd, and 16 GB of ram, and it is hands down the fastest, smoothest computer system that I've ever used. Plus I've used it a bunch for digital painting and 2d animation. I haven't tried using it for 3d rendering though. I've transfered schools recently and I'm only asking for the 3d sculpting because I might need to take a 3d sculpting class or two, so I wanted to be prepared just incase. But as things stand, I have no intention of going professional with scuplting. But digital painting and two 2d animation, yeah. Maybe some video editing to I think. But for the most part it's going to be digital painting and 2d animation.

Feel free to make adjustments though, but I want to keep the 1080 ti. You can change everything else.



Yeah, this was back a few weeks ago when the price of the GPU was around $1.6k. The price for most of the parts listed have dropped about 10-60%.

But yeah, like I said to mad matt, I am partial to the intel i7 and the gtx 1080ti and 32 GB of Ram. Everything else doesn't matter.

I'm considering using Madmatt's suggested build, but swap the amd for an intel, upgrade the 1080 to a 1080ti, and add another 16Gb of ram. Thoughts?
 
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If yore insistent on going Intel i7 then ita a good bud with a few improvises.

1. You don't need the wireless network card , that board has it built in.
2.The 5tb drive is overpriced , go with 2x2tb or even 2x3tb drives, you're better with split storage for backup purposes , smaller platter drives tend to be more reliable & run cooler/quieter - they will also cost less.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/n2JwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-dt01aca300

3.For 32gb buy a matching kit of ram

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nZfmP6/gskill-memory-f43000c15q32gvrb
 
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Thanks for the reply madmatt. You really helped me. I know how annoying it can be when someone asks for advice only to ignore it or change it, even though that wasn't my intention. Anyway, Thanks again for taking the time to help.
 
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