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So it's my first time building a pc and i gathered the components that im planning to get but im open to suggestions because im not 100% sure. So far i got this (note that i have 700w Power supply from corsair and hard drive that im keeping from my old pc): Asus gtx 1060 6gb strix OC, i5 7600, corsair vengeance 16gb 2400mhz RAM, Gigabyte b250 m motherboard, BK008 cooling fan from Be Quite and some cheap case wich i havent diceded yet. I generally want a PC with good out of the box performance since i dont know anything about OC. My budget is around 850 euros (I'm currently in Germany) but i can add a bit more if necessary. I just want an advice from someone who has experience with building PC's to recommend if the parts are good enough or if i need to change/add something. I'm aiming at smooth 60+fps gaming at 1080p on ultra settings.
 
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8gb should be enough, for now, and ryzen likes faster ram, to a point, so 2666, 3000, or 3200 will do. You can use the German pcpartpicker to help you. It will have listings for legit sites to buy from.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/
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King Dranzer

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Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€211.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€77.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€43.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card (€598.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €932.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-09 18:01 CEST+0200
 
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That CPU comes with a Stock Cooler which is good unless you plan on pushing the clock speeds very high. 8GB RAM will do for now and another 8GB stick can be easily added in future and it only costs €43.8GB RAM is enough as it meets the minimum requirements of 98% of games. There are very few games with minimum requirement of more than 8GB RAM. GTX1080 is not overkill for 1080p gaming. GTX1060 is unable to hit 60fps in many games at ultra settings. Eg, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Hitman, Crysis 3, Witcher 3, Forza Horizon 3 and many more. GTX1080 is best suited for 1080p as it can last you longer without the requirement of upgrade to satisfy 60fps at ultra settings.
 
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Doesn't that CPU bottleneck gtx 1080? I just watched a lot of videos on gtx 1060's cards and they seem to perform well at 1080p but if you say that its not enough maybe go with 1070 then and upgrade RAM, Buy case and just overall switch/add some stuff with the leftover money cause 600 euro for video card... idk i just dont need that for now.
 
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King Dranzer

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No way that CPU is gonna bottleneck GTX1080. Trust me you will not regret going with GTX1080. It will surely give you smoother gameplay for longer period of time. It is not like you can upgrade a GPU whenever you want. It is not a cheap component to swap easily. Once you buy a GPU you will not bee upgrading it for some years. If you go with GTX1060 it will need a upgrade in a year as it is unable to keep-up with 1080p games at present it will become worse. GTX1070 will give you 2-3Yrs of smooth running after that you will have to bring down the settings. With GTX1080 it will last you 4-5Yrs after which you probably would be planning an upgrade. When you are getting GTX1080 in your budget without spending much extra for getting a big gain of performance.

I am just advising the GTX1080 because I don't expect you to regularly upgrade the hardware to get smooth gameplay. Instead spend once and utilize it for longer period of time. You have to decide which way you wanna go.
 
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So I built this on pcpartpicker and it has an 8GB RX580 you did say you didn't really need a GTX 1080 and I assume you are playing at 1080p so a GTX 1080 is overkill anyways
Same CPU as King Dranzer has on his list
The case is cheap and you could get a cheaper one but that one had good reviews.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€211.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard (€94.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€120.82 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card (€316.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case (€34.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €779.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-10 13:03 CEST+0200
 
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Well first of all is that CPU better then intel's ones like i5 6600 or 7600? Then im splitting between 1060 and 1070, Cause i tought that 1060 would last me around 2-3 years but if thats not the case then ill go with 1070 i guess cause for now again i think 1080 is overkill plus spending 400-500 euros once per 3 years for video card is not that much. About rx 580 i just dont think that amd cards are much efficient cause majority of games are leaning towards nvidia, correct me if im wrong. So can we fit good 1070 in this build with 16gb RAM for around 850-900 euro with the case.
 
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Ok how would the 1060 only last you 2 to 3 years... My current gaming system still has a GTX 560 TI and that thing still plays games great! (its the same performance as a GTX 750 TI) and that graphics card came out in 2010 so trust me when I say that the 1060 will last you a long time.
Here is an updated list that has a better case and a GTX 1060 6GB but if you were to go with the one I posted before with the RX 580 you get 2 more GB of vram so that card would last you longer but since you dont like the RX here.

Oh and also the R5 1600 is a great cpu 6 cores 12 threads its as good as those i5 cpus

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€209.15 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard (€94.33 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€112.83 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB D5 6G Video Card (€304.02 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Inwin - GT1 Black ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €785.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-11 01:09 CEST+0200
 
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Good luck with getting an RX 580 or GTX 1060. The latest crypto currency mining craze has made their prices skyrocket, when you can find them. The RX 580 more so. I have to somewhat agree with the longevity argument of a faster GPU, but a GTX 1070 would be a good choice, and still have some longevity. Ryzen likes fast ram, and 16gb is a good idea.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€209.15 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€85.77 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€125.75 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card (€549.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €970.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-11 01:29 CEST+0200

 
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that is over the op's budget
 
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I would say you should wait for Vega RX just because its about to come out so wait a month or so and once that comes out and if you like it then get one but if you dont then go get yourself a GTX 1060 or GTX 1070
 
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Im planning to build at the end of August cause im still working but prices at german amazon are weird, gigabyte version of 1070 goes for 515 euros but its out of stock and idk if price is gonna go up when it will be available while other 1070's go for around 550+ wich are in stock.

Basically i'll probably go with Ryzens CPU, That B350M motherboard, 8gb of ram will probably be enough for now right? Plus i wanted to know what MhZ RAM to buy wih this MB and CPU and gtx 1070, but if ill go with that 3 fan version can you recommend some cheap case for it.

If you know approximately when the sales are gonna start or some other sites besides amazon and ebay for Germany please tell me.
 
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