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i am a normal gamer that play games like fallout4,the witcher3,skyrim etc
i going to bulit a new gaming buget rig with ryzen 1600.also i already owned a single gtx 970 and not gonna to sli.

the real question is:the chipset will affect game performance or not?
So the problem that confuse me long time.

For b350 board:
B350 TOMAHAWK
GA-AB350-Gaming 3
ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING

For x370 board:
GA-AX370-Gaming 5

for me that those board are fine for me
is it worth to buy x370 instead b350 for a normal person

also if b350 is good enough for me,which one is better performce?
ps:i will try to learn overclock a litter bit
 
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Only reason to get the X370 is 1) you want to SLI, as some (not all) X370 mobos support SLI, while all B350 mobos do not; and 2) you want at least 6x SATA ports, as all X370 have a minimum of 6x SATA ports (with some going as high as 8x or 10x), while all B350 mobos have at least 4x SATA ports (though some do have 6x SATA ports max.)

Other than that, you'd get the same performance (even at overclocking) on a B350 mobo as you would get with an X370 mobo. Just select the appropriate B350 mobo that caters to your needs (as there are some B350 mobos that have lesser performance than others).

As to your direct question: also if b350 is good enough for me,which one is better performce?

B350 TOMAHAWK
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Only reason to get the X370 is 1) you want to SLI, as some (not all) X370 mobos support SLI, while all B350 mobos do not; and 2) you want at least 6x SATA ports, as all X370 have a minimum of 6x SATA ports (with some going as high as 8x or 10x), while all B350 mobos have at least 4x SATA ports (though some do have 6x SATA ports max.)

Other than that, you'd get the same performance (even at overclocking) on a B350 mobo as you would get with an X370 mobo. Just select the appropriate B350 mobo that caters to your needs (as there are some B350 mobos that have lesser performance than others).

As to your direct question: also if b350 is good enough for me,which one is better performce?

B350 TOMAHAWK
Only has 6 power phases | Only 4x SATA ports + 1x M.2 | 2x PCIe slots at x16/x4 or x16/x2 | Realtek RTL8111H LAN
Only ALC892 Audio | 6x total USB rear panel ports | 6x total fan headers | Red LED ambient lighting
Only 2x out of 4x SATA ports oriented in 90-degree layout | Can support 2-Way CrossFire (if no PCIe x1 slots are used)

GA-AB350-Gaming 3
Only has 7 power phases | Has 6x SATA ports + 1x M.2 | 3x PCIe slots at x16/x4/x1 or x16/x2/x1 | Realtek RTL8111G LAN
ALC1220 Audio | 7x total USB rear panel ports | 5x total fan headers | RGB LED ambient lighting
Only 2x out of 6x SATA ports oriented in 90-degree layout | Can support 2-Way CrossFire (if no PCIe x1 slots are used)

ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING
Has 8 power phases | Has 6x SATA ports + 1x M.2 | 3x PCIe slots at x16/x0/x4 or x8/x4/x4 | Intel I211AT LAN
FX S1220A Audio | 8x total USB rear panel ports | 6x total fan headers | RGB LED ambient lighting
Has all 6x out of 6x SATA ports oriented in 90-degree layout | Can support 2-Way CrossFire or 3-Way CrossFire

So, with the above salient differences, it is clear that the Asus ROG STrix B350-F Gaming has the best performance among the B350 motherboards being considered.
 
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No need at the moment as the Ryzen 5 1600 CPU comes with a very decent stock CPU cooler (Wraith Spire) in the box already (enough for non-extreme OC'ing/tests).
[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWMIpVrVQ0"][/video]
 
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sorry,i still get one question.
did i really need a higher speed of ram for a buget build
like:G.SKILL DDR4 Aegis Gaming Series F4-3000C16S-8GISB DDR4 3000MHz 8GB (1x8GB) Ram
or choose 2133 2400 mhz ram will be fine with not a huge diffence??

in country,i find 3000mhz ram cost 67us dollar,2133mhz ram cost 60us dollar
so is it worth to buy a high speed ram
 
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For only $7 difference, I'd definitely get the much faster RAM which Ryzen CPUs pairs well with when OC'ing and when gaming on powerful GPUs. But I won't get a 1 x 8GB, instead, I'd try to get 16GB (2 x 8GB) at the start to eliminate any incompatibility issues when buying another stick of RAM later on, as well as to take advantage of dual-channel memory speeds right away.
 
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as you said :dual-channel memory may speed up a little bit and try to get two ram intead one.
so,i want to ask you that 8gb ram(2x4gb) and 16gb(2x8gb) are exist a huge different speed?
i want to get the best CP value for my build and for future-proof.
 
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For future-proofing, you want to get 16GB (2 x 8GB) right away, as I said, it will eliminate compatibility issues with adding another set of RAM sticks in the future if you only get 8GB (2 x 4GB).

However, most of the games today as well as the games you have mentioned (Fallout4, Witcher 3, Skyrim) will work well enough with 8GB (2 x 4GB) of RAM. Fallout4 based on my gameplay, uses about 5GB to 6GB max. Not sure about Witcher 3, but, 8GB is the recommended system specs. Skyrim, probably a bit lower than those games. But as said, these are the games of today (or the past years). What future game requirements lie ahead, we still don't know -- but I am guessing that 16GB would be the 'norm' at that point in time (just like how 8GB RAM was deemed "overkill" for gaming several years ago).

So, if you can get the 16GB (2 x 8GB) right away, the better for your build.
 
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For your opinion,i found several band of ram
GALAX HOF Series DDR4 3000MHz 16GB Kit (2x8GB)
G.Skill DDR4 Aegis Gaming Series 3000MHz 1x8GB F4-3000C16S-8GISB
Kingston Hyper X Fury 16GB DDR4 2400 Memory Kit (8GB x2)

GALAX and G.Skill have highest MHz in list
those ram cost around 144us dollars
which chooice is the best ??

ps:G.Skill need to buy two
 
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Check the Memory QVL List of the Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming motherboard here: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/STRIX_B350-F_GAMING/ROG_STRIX_B350-F_GAMING_Memory_QVL_20170519.pdf?_ga=2.205582353.329936003.1496830631-1995554391.1496830631

The GALAX HOF Series listed and tested is the 3200MHz version 16GB (2x8GB) with Product Code: HOF4CALCS3600K17LD162C (see page 10 of the QVL link above). If you can find that RAM kit, that would be better as it works with the motherboard in 3200MHz speeds as tested by Asus.

Note that RAM brands/models that are not listed in the QVL does not necessarily mean it will not work. It only means it wasn't tested by Asus (due to the numerous RAMs available in the market). There is a high chance that the 3000MHz GALAX HOF might also work (but I cannot personally guarantee).
 
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thanks all your precious time to answer my question
i am a new guy in pc knowledge:wahoo:
 
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i already owned a pc case:Silencio 550
it got some material to make pc silence inside.
In the old time,i got overheating problem with my hd5850 before
So i get the side panel off to make the heat release rapidly.
Is that a good way to release heat?Worth to do it without any "cons" or discrease the airflow??
for future-proof,i need to make it clearly for my new pc build
thanks
 
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Hi, where did you find the number of power phases? I've searched all over Google and found only people's estimates and assumptions from looking at photos, but nothing concrete.

If you know the exact numbers, is that 6 phases for the CPU?
 
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If you check the motherboard specifications on their website, you'll find out the number of power phases or VRMs.

Its what helps step the voltage and supply power to the CPU. Some boards brag about it in their marketing.

Maximum power phase I've seen is 16 at present on my ASRock X370 Fatal1ty Professional Gaming. Check the link and look under 16 power phase design.
 
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