CPU for GTX 1060 6GB?

Xososkitah

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I have a AMD A-10 6700 APU with Radeon HD Graphics; is it bottlenecking my GTX 1060 6GB? I mainly play Overwatch
 
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I would wait a while longer until you have some more money.

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sourodip

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Actually, that is quite a decent CPU.
Assuming the fact that you have a 60 Hz monitor, there won't be any bottlenecks. You will see a steady 60 fps tag.
If you have a 144 Hz monitor or one with higher refresh rate, your CPU would hold you back from giving 100% performance. Still you would see a comfortable 90+ fps on any titles.
 


decent in its time, yes, it's an APU, it was boasted coz of the decent integrated graphic, so i wouldn't call it decent nowdays. pairing it with 1060 will cause a bottleneck, yes, but u should still see some decent increase in performance
 

sourodip

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Bottleneck does not only depends on the processor but also on softwares i.e. drivers and API's.
I said that is a decent CPU since it would be able to run the modern games at 60+ fps with tweaked settings, i won't say ultra. But at 1080P, it will give a sturdy performance when paired with a GTX 1060.
If the OP has the 6700, then upgrading to a new one would cost much more along with the GTX 1060.
Spending some extra bucks is good but only if you spending on good course.
 

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I think you must be confusing this for another CPU? The A10 isnt a decent CPU, its low-mid at best. A Pentium G4560 would be significantly better.

Changing graphics settings wont really help, in many AAA games it will struggle past 30fps even with a 1080 ti, because the A10 will be bottlenecking.
 

sourodip

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I think i have gone a year back or two. I followed the following thread which is a year old:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3195915/amd-a10-6700-bottleneck-gtx-1060.html

Maybe, the games nowadays have pretty much hefty requirements. It may be the case that a 6700 may deliver poor performance. I am sorry, i misjudged. I have got back here after 1.5 yrs, technologically I'm kinda backdated.
However, a GTX 1050Ti is the perfect match you can get and is worth the money. I don't think a GTX 1050 Ti would be bottlenecked by a A10 6700.
 

Xososkitah

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I mean I get 150 stable FPS on Overwatch no matter what settings I use (high or low), that's why I thought it was my CPU's problem even tho I haven't experienced any overheating or high utilization %. I also use a 1080p 60 hz monitor; 60 stable fps is what I was playing at before getting the 1060, absolutely garbage, I can read it but the input lag is unplayable.
 

sourodip

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Have you tried updating the drivers to the latest version after doing a clean un-installation of the former?
So, are you having the GTX 1060 or are you planning to get one? Tried removing unnecessary drivers?
What are the temps while gaming?
 

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How does that "clean un-installation of the former" work? I tried updating the drivers but they're already updated (maybe I missed some). And I already have the GTX 1060 plugged into my PC, temps are depending on which settings I'm using in-game but with what's most appropriate (for Overwatch) I get 60°C (higher settings; peak 70°C) both stable by the way. How can I tell a driver is unnecessary in my PC? you mean physically when taking a part the old graphic card that I should have removed something else like a processor? or you mean one in the device manager?
 

sourodip

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Nope, i don't mean removing any component physically. What i mean is the un-installation of unwanted drivers that uses up space and memory. I meant removal of the old GPU drivers before installing the updated version. You said that you are getting 60 fps which means you are playing Overwatch with V-sync enabled. I haven't played the game ( as it costs huge over here) but does the problem get solved by any latest patches ? You said that you were experiencing input lag, kindly go through the article, the links of those are given below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/475u4y/psa_if_you_feel_input_lag_read_this/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/69dcik/overwatch_has_input_lag_issues_heres_an_updated/

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752659232

By the way, can you mention the CPU utilization while playing ? What about the frame rates and temps of both the GPU and CPU while playing other games, say in AAA genre, Prey or something like that.
 
The A-10 6700 will struggle with more CPU intensive games, but with older titles and many e-sports it will achieve 60fps (or more).

As mentioned above, it's weaker than a stock Pentium G4560.

You won't be able to get 60fps on the likes of GTA V for example. It'll hover between 30-40 fps even on the lowest settings.
 

Xososkitah

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The AMD A-10 6700 is literally 100$ above the Pentium G4560. Also I think that my problem resides in my RAM instead of my CPU now that I think of it, maybe the order or something is wrong? I have 8GB (4/4 with a maximum of 2 slots). Though you guys seem to have no idea about what you're talking about, if that's the case you shouldn't try to help me, it'll only waste more of my time.
 
some of us already told u and explained it
A-10 is an APU, it's only boasted bcz of it's strong iGPU
many people already said that it's CPU performance are pretty bad, they bought it just so that they can save the discrete GPU cost
G4560 cost 100$ below your A-10 newer, perform better, and can even handle up to GTX 1060 just fine
(in case u're still being stubborn bout the A10 vs G4560, here: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-A10-6700-APU/3892vs2938)

lemme complete the phrase @RobCrezz:
Your mistake was buying the AMD A10 6700 -> and hoping u can pair it with a decent new gen discrete GPU

u buy APU only when u already plan to use it without discrete GPU! if u plan to put a discrete on it, buy the FX instead
 

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no, you never buy FX at all


you get a pentium G4560 or a ryzen 1400
 


well if he build it before those line-up came out, i would prefer the FX over the A10 any day, now that the new gen already released, i will rather suggest a Ryzen 9except if u're on a real tight budget, which means go for the G4560)
 

Xososkitah

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This garbage isn't letting me quote @constantine_99
[some of us already told u and explained it
A-10 is an APU, it's only boasted bcz of it's strong iGPU
many people already said that it's CPU performance are pretty bad, they bought it just so that they can save the discrete GPU cost
G4560 cost 100$ below your A-10 newer, perform better, and can even handle up to GTX 1060 just fine
(in case u're still being stubborn bout the A10 vs G4560, here: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G456...)

lemme complete the phrase @RobCrezz:
Your mistake was buying the AMD A10 6700 -> and hoping u can pair it with a decent new gen discrete GPU

u buy APU only when u already plan to use it without discrete GPU! if u plan to put a discrete on it, buy the FX instead]

Answer: I didn't directly buy it, it came with my PC which I got few years ago, stop assuming. At least you gave some extra information not like the guy above you...
I didn't know APU's don't make the job as CPU's, what's the point of them then? I can spend 180$~, should I get a good RAM or a good CPU? I don't know which one is affecting my performance...
 


Actually, that would be pretty hard
A10 had their own Mobo line up, FM2 if I recall it correctly.
That means getting new CPU = new mobo so upgrading to next gen like g4560 is pretty hard to be done (changing RAM too, it can go over ur budget, especially with the g4560 recent price increase)
The best option right now is to find some used thing I guess, maybe something like an used i3/i5 with it's Mobo (example: i5 3570 + LGA 1155 Mobo) as their price should be cheaper.

Edit: A10 positive point? u don't need discrete GPU, as the integrated one is already pretty strong [at their time] (stronger than Intel's iGPU but now that product is too weak and old too)
 

Xososkitah

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@constantine_99 I have access to a Intel Pentium G3240 @ 3.10GHz for free. Is that one better than my current A-10 6700 APU? Also apparently my PC isn't worth shit, I bought it for 500$ and it has nothing usefull in it... When I bought it the people there said it was good :/