Bridged Modem/Router and Powerline Adapter Issue

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Stuffz121

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Hello,

I recently got a Netgear 500 power line adapter so I can see the difference between my wireless connection with my new Nighthawk R7000 and a wired connection using the Netgear 500 power line adapter. Also, up till now, my R7000 router was connected through the Modem/router hybrid that my ISP rented me. So I installed my power line adapters, one to the modem/router of my ISP and the other to my PC in another room. Download speeds were significantly worse but I noticed that there was some kind of increase in performance in online gaming.
Then it was only now that I found out that having 2 wireless routers working in one home is not very good since it can cause problems such as double NAT and all that. So I turned Bridging mode "on" on my ISP modem/router to fix the issue despite not experiencing any noticeable issues to begin with. However, with my power line adapter still connected to the modem/router, it seems that my PC doesn't seem to connect to the Internet anymore. Is this because my other adapter is connected to a "bridged" modem/router? I tried switching the connection of the power line adapter to my now main router, which is the R7000, and while I can use the Internet, it now absolutely sucks in trying to find online matches on steam for example. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Thank you
 
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" Is this because my other adapter is connected to a "bridged" modem/router"
Yes. Bridging will make your pc appear on the outside of your router. It basically hides the connection between you and it, and your pc will get your external IP address.
An additional problem to doing this is that you reduce your security as you are now totally reliant on your pc's firewall to keep out intruders.

"Download speeds were significantly worse but I noticed that there was some kind of increase in performance in online gaming. "
- your bandwidth is probably lower on the power line but your ping is probably higher. this will feel better in gaming.

You need to choose one connection to the router - either wireless or power line. The best option is a...
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" Is this because my other adapter is connected to a "bridged" modem/router"
Yes. Bridging will make your pc appear on the outside of your router. It basically hides the connection between you and it, and your pc will get your external IP address.
An additional problem to doing this is that you reduce your security as you are now totally reliant on your pc's firewall to keep out intruders.

"Download speeds were significantly worse but I noticed that there was some kind of increase in performance in online gaming. "
- your bandwidth is probably lower on the power line but your ping is probably higher. this will feel better in gaming.

You need to choose one connection to the router - either wireless or power line. The best option is a LAN cable, but I'm guessing that's not practical for you and that's why you went with a power line adapter.
 
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Ok I guess that makes sense thank you for the explanation. So powerline adapters essentially do not work with a bridged device. I currently have the adapter connected to the router instead just to test it out a bit to see if there's a change compared to where it was connected to my modem unbridged, and so far, it doesn't seem that great. I'm assuming there is no real way to improve this powerline connection in this setup, and wifi would be the better option?

If you don't mind me asking, would you recommend turning off bridge mode on my modem, and then turn on bridge mode on my R7000 router which I will then take that router to my PC room to connect wired? In this setup I'm guessing that the two devices will connect wirelessly and then my router will have a wired conncetion to my PC. Another method I was considering in order to take off any double NAT issue, is to try to have my modem be off of bridge mode and have the modem DMZ my router. Is this possible? Thanks again.
 
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" I'm assuming there is no real way to improve this powerline connection in this setup, and wifi would be the better option? " .. This is correct.
both are subject to noise in their medium and power lines have a lot of random noise in them. wifi on the other hand was designed to compensate for noise, and only wifi signals and bluetooth are on that frequency (microwave ovens also use that frequency to cook your food, but they are shielded, hopefully).

Your plan does sound feasible, just remember that if you use both mediums, you are going to get the worst of both worlds.
 
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