Stutter in Minecraft

gk712 · Jul 11, 2017

Hi, i've been having an issue in Minecraft. I have significantly high fps, ranging from 300-600 almost all the time on multiplayer factions servers. However when I try to do something like place a lot of blocks, break a lot of sugar cane, or go to an area with a large base or structure, my fps stays pretty high but i get awful stuttering which makes the game nearly unplayable. I've tried messing with all the settings in minecraft and in my control panel and nothing has seemed to work so far. Here are my specs:

FX-6300 oc to 3.8 ghz
GTX 1050 Ti
1 TB HDD
8 GB Ram
500W PSU
Windows 10

If anyone has suggestions please let me know, thanks.

VileAngle · Jul 11, 2017

Have you done a clean reinstall of the game?

What speed is your HDD? If it's very, very slow, it can be the issue.

Can you maybe tell us your frametime? It can be the issue in certain instances with the lower end cpu's like a 6300.

gk712 · Jul 17, 2017

VileAngle :

Yeah I completely uninstalled and reinstalled the game.
My HDD is 7200 rpm, not sure if thats fast or slow.
And by frametime do you mean fps? If so i get 200-400 fps most of the time.

FabioXN7 · Jul 19, 2017

Have you tried using OptiFine? Is a really good Minecraft enhancer, makes performance better allocating the computer resources to the game. Are you using any mods ? Heavy Texture Packs or anything?

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Yeah I have optifine installed already, I've tried messing with all the performance settings and I can't get anything to make the game smooth. No mods whatsoever and I have a texture pack but the game does the same thing without it on.

FabioXN7 · Jul 19, 2017

gk712 :

Hmm, I'll ask you a couple of questions here so we can try to find a solution -

1 - You said you run the game at 200 - 300 fps right? Have you tried capping these frames to 60 or maybe 100, I know it sounds dumb to cap it to a lower rate, but just for testing..

2 - Does this issue only happens in multiplayer? Or it happens in SP as well?

3 - Do you play other games? If so, are these games suffering from the same stuttering problem?

4 - Do you usually have lower ping on these servers?

5 - Are your CPU and GPU temps fine?

6 - Does the stuttering usually happens in a specific biome? (Like only in Jungle, only in Desert, etc)

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

1- Yeah I've tried that and it doesn't really seem to change anything. Most of the problem comes when I first join a server or when I'm joining a survival games match, the chunks take forever to load and are extremely choppy.

2- It seems to only happen mostly in multiplayer but it still happens occasionally in SP.

3- Yeah I play games like Overwatch, CSGO, Call of Duty. None of them seem to have this problem at all.

4- Yeah I mean my pings always around 40-60 which isn't great but it shouldn't have a huge impact.

5- Yep. Cleaned all the dust out a few months ago and all ventilation is perfect, the PC is quiet and CPU temps never go over 60, gpu never goes over 75

6- No not that I've noticed.

FabioXN7 · Jul 19, 2017

gk712 :

FabioXN7 :

1- Yeah I've tried that and it doesn't really seem to change anything. Most of the problem comes when I first join a server or when I'm joining a survival games match, the chunks take forever to load and are extremely choppy.

2- It seems to only happen mostly in multiplayer but it still happens occasionally in SP.

3- Yeah I play games like Overwatch, CSGO, Call of Duty. None of them seem to have this problem at all.

4- Yeah I mean my pings always around 40-60 which isn't great but it shouldn't have a huge impact.

5- Yep. Cleaned all the dust out a few months ago and all ventilation is perfect, the PC is quiet and CPU temps never go over 60, gpu never goes over 75

6- No not that I've noticed.

Thats odd, try this if you haven't already -

1 - Clean your RAM sticks with a pencil eraser, I had problems like these and BSOD a few months ago, that just did the trick.

2 - Reinstall your Java Runtime, uninstall all previous Java versions from your computer entirely and do a fresh clean Java install.

3 - Manually try to allocate more memory to Minecraft if you didn't

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/unmodified-minecraft-client/tutorials-and-faqs/1871637-tutorial-allocate-more-memory-for-minecraft

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

gk712 :

Thats odd, try this if you haven't already -

1 - Clean your RAM sticks with a pencil eraser, I had problems like these and BSOD a few months ago, that just did the trick.

2 - Reinstall your Java Runtime, uninstall all previous Java versions from your computer entirely and do a fresh clean Java install.

3 - Manually try to allocate more memory to Minecraft if you didn't

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/unmodified-minecraft-client/tutorials-and-faqs/1871637-tutorial-allocate-more-memory-for-minecraft

I reinstalled Java and I have 64 bit, and yeah I did allocate more ram to mc ive tried 3gb and 4gb. For the cleaning of the ram sticks do I just turn off and unplug my pc, take them out and clean them, then put them back in?

FabioXN7 · Jul 19, 2017

Yes turn off your computer completely, remove your RAM sticks and clean it with an eraser, and with a Clean brush, clean the RAM stick slots, then put them back in.

Here's a video on how to do it safely -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kh2QoSopfU

Remember, do it at your own risk, if you are not confident enough, simply don't do it Okay?

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Okay thanks Ill go try it and give you feedback as to how it goes.

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Hey I cleaned the ram and my PC works fine it just didn't seem to fix anything. I still get crazy stutter when I load up a server or join a survival games match, along with stutter while breaking/placing a large amount of blocks.

FabioXN7 · Jul 19, 2017

gk712 :

Ok, let's try some other workarounds since i'm running out of options here, you've tried most of the basic things, and since you've said u don't have the same issue on other games but Mc then your specs are doing ok I guess, but just in case I would recommend you to try these other possible fixes bellow -

1 - You said according to your info that you Oced your CPU right? Have you tried removing the OC and restoring to stock? I know you might think it has nothing to do with it, but in my case I've oced my GPU in MSI Afterburner a little and tested AC - Unity, the oc gave me opposite effects instead, the game started to stutter and I started to have plenty of hiccups here and then.. I restored to stock values and everything was fine again.

2 - Have you checked your CPU, GPU, DISK and RAM usage? If not, could you please monitor your components with MSI Afterburner or Windows Task Manager and post the results, for example: Does your CPU or Disk usage reaches 99% when these stutters happens?

3 - Do you have any other background apps running that could interfere with the game? Like AntiVirus, Scanners and so on? If so, try disabling one by one or setting them to "game mode" and see if it helps. Also do a computer scan for possible viruses (but I don't think thats the issue though..) Sometimes these AntiViruses Softwares run RootKits scanners in backgrounds discretely

4 - I know that you've already did reinstalled the game more than once perhaps, but try it again but this time without any mods and texture packs, and go straight to a multiplayer game and see if it lags or stutter.

5 - Have you tried lowering the loading / rendering distance of chunks? Enable OpenGL as well.

6 - Are your Drivers up to date? GPU, CPU driver and etc.

7 - In last instance but not the best solution I would create a new Windows ACC and install minecraft just to Test, and see if it's a Windows related issue.

Hope that helps..

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Thanks for all the suggestions btw.
1- Yeah I did OC my cpu from 3.5ghz to 3.7ghz, just set it back tho and restarted. I'm still having the issue.

2- I constantly monitor my cpu, gpu, and ram usage, and none of it seems to be out of the ordinary. I haven't however monitored my disk usage so I may try that.

3- I deleted any antivirus that I could find and I always play minecraft with nothing else running.

4- Ill give this a try too along with monitoring disk usage.

5- Yeah I've tried this and this only changes the fps really. Same amount of stuttering on a render distance of 2 than on a render distance of 16.

6- Geforce Experience drivers are definitely up to date, not sure how to find cpu drivers. If you wanna give me a link then I'll try that.

7- If all else fails I'll try this. Not sure how to but i'll worry about that when I get there.

gk712 · Jul 19, 2017

FabioXN7 :

gk712 :

Ok, let's try some other workarounds since i'm running out of options here, you've tried most of the basic things, and since you've said u don't have the same issue on other games but Mc then your specs are doing ok I guess, but just in case I would recommend you to try these other possible fixes bellow -

1 - You said according to your info that you Oced your CPU right? Have you tried removing the OC and restoring to stock? I know you might think it has nothing to do with it, but in my case I've oced my GPU in MSI Afterburner a little and tested AC - Unity, the oc gave me opposite effects instead, the game started to stutter and I started to have plenty of hiccups here and then.. I restored to stock values and everything was fine again.

2 - Have you checked your CPU, GPU, DISK and RAM usage? If not, could you please monitor your components with MSI Afterburner or Windows Task Manager and post the results, for example: Does your CPU or Disk usage reaches 99% when these stutters happens?

3 - Do you have any other background apps running that could interfere with the game? Like AntiVirus, Scanners and so on? If so, try disabling one by one or setting them to "game mode" and see if it helps. Also do a computer scan for possible viruses (but I don't think thats the issue though..) Sometimes these AntiViruses Softwares run RootKits scanners in backgrounds discretely

4 - I know that you've already did reinstalled the game more than once perhaps, but try it again but this time without any mods and texture packs, and go straight to a multiplayer game and see if it lags or stutter.

5 - Have you tried lowering the loading / rendering distance of chunks? Enable OpenGL as well.

6 - Are your Drivers up to date? GPU, CPU driver and etc.

7 - In last instance but not the best solution I would create a new Windows ACC and install minecraft just to Test, and see if it's a Windows related issue.

Hope that helps..

Hey, I tried deleting everything minecraft related and reinstalling. I'm still having the issue. The only things left at the moment are for me to try new cpu drivers and/or monitoring my disk usage which I don't know how to do. If you want to help me out thatd be appreciated, thanks,

FabioXN7 · Jul 20, 2017

Actually that's pretty simple, press CTRL + ALT + DEL click on Windows Task Manager and let it open, click on Performance tab and Open Minecraft, if you don't have Extended Monitors you may have to play minecraft on Windowed screen just so you can monitor your Disk usage, and then join a Multiplayer server and while the game stutters check if the CPU or DISK usage reaches 99% like it jumps from 10% or 5% to instantly 99%, if that's the case then I would say something is wrong with the Disk, and then we could try some other fixes I have in mind that could work, but let's not get to conclusion just yet and do some testing.

Now if you want to do real Monitoring for Both CPU and GPU just for curiosity, you can easily do that with MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner Statistics Server, here's a good tutorial video on how to do that -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZx8PbFmeEM

Install MSI Afterburner and Rivatuner Statistics Server, one needs another so you can monitor your temps and both CPU and GPU usage, also it displays VRAM usage as well.

To install the most recent drivers you could either try to look up on your components manufacturer website and download the lastest drivers or you could download Driver Booster from IObit which i personally use and it's really good.

Also, check on your GEFORCE Experience if you have ShadowPlay enabled by default it's an option about "Sharing Experience" or something, just turn that off if that's the case. In NVIDIAs control panel let the 3D application decide as well instead of using Global Profile settings.

Let me know if that works

gk712 · Jul 20, 2017

FabioXN7 :

I did notice yesterday exactly what you described, the disk usage jumping from 5-10% to 99%. That is definitely something to come back to.

I have MSI Afterburner and i monitor cpu and gpu temps and usage etc, however I used to have rivatuner a while back and I could get that too.

I'll go download Driver Booster and see if that has anything for me as well.

I do have shadowplay and I usually have the option on where I can save the last 30 seconds. I'll try playing with that turned off and see if it makes a difference.

I'll get back to you in a bit, thanks

gk712 · Jul 20, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Actually that's pretty simple, press CTRL + ALT + DEL click on Windows Task Manager and let it open, click on Performance tab and Open Minecraft, if you don't have Extended Monitors you may have to play minecraft on Windowed screen just so you can monitor your Disk usage, and then join a Multiplayer server and while the game stutters check if the CPU or DISK usage reaches 99% like it jumps from 10% or 5% to instantly 99%, if that's the case then I would say something is wrong with the Disk, and then we could try some other fixes I have in mind that could work, but let's not get to conclusion just yet and do some testing.

Now if you want to do real Monitoring for Both CPU and GPU just for curiosity, you can easily do that with MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner Statistics Server, here's a good tutorial video on how to do that -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZx8PbFmeEM

Install MSI Afterburner and Rivatuner Statistics Server, one needs another so you can monitor your temps and both CPU and GPU usage, also it displays VRAM usage as well.

To install the most recent drivers you could either try to look up on your components manufacturer website and download the lastest drivers or you could download Driver Booster from IObit which i personally use and it's really good.

Also, check on your GEFORCE Experience if you have ShadowPlay enabled by default it's an option about "Sharing Experience" or something, just turn that off if that's the case. In NVIDIAs control panel let the 3D application decide as well instead of using Global Profile settings.

Let me know if that works

Here's what my disk usage looks like after just launching minecraft to the home screen without even joining a game: https://gyazo.com/8430f81a812e5bb93c0c73f87a0592c3

gk712 · Jul 20, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Actually that's pretty simple, press CTRL + ALT + DEL click on Windows Task Manager and let it open, click on Performance tab and Open Minecraft, if you don't have Extended Monitors you may have to play minecraft on Windowed screen just so you can monitor your Disk usage, and then join a Multiplayer server and while the game stutters check if the CPU or DISK usage reaches 99% like it jumps from 10% or 5% to instantly 99%, if that's the case then I would say something is wrong with the Disk, and then we could try some other fixes I have in mind that could work, but let's not get to conclusion just yet and do some testing.

Now if you want to do real Monitoring for Both CPU and GPU just for curiosity, you can easily do that with MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner Statistics Server, here's a good tutorial video on how to do that -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZx8PbFmeEM

Install MSI Afterburner and Rivatuner Statistics Server, one needs another so you can monitor your temps and both CPU and GPU usage, also it displays VRAM usage as well.

To install the most recent drivers you could either try to look up on your components manufacturer website and download the lastest drivers or you could download Driver Booster from IObit which i personally use and it's really good.

Also, check on your GEFORCE Experience if you have ShadowPlay enabled by default it's an option about "Sharing Experience" or something, just turn that off if that's the case. In NVIDIAs control panel let the 3D application decide as well instead of using Global Profile settings.

Let me know if that works

I also do remember having the game crash yesterday with an error that included read and write speeds, which I'm assuming had to do to the hard drive. If we can pinpoint this all down to a hard drive error then that might help a bit. Any tips on cleaning/fixing a bad hard drive?

FabioXN7 · Jul 20, 2017

Only one image, can't really tell if you are running into Disk issues, but if you could record a video while playing the game and showing the Disk usage at the same time, It would be easier to notice these spikes. Have you tried the other stuff I've mentioned?

gk712 · Jul 20, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Things were running smooth until my game suddenly crashed with this error message: https://gyazo.com/5892bf44577c09163b6550b040e91409

Also this happened in the middle of a game too: https://gyazo.com/df6d4e5aefdd44ca27df6b5c8ef36b63

Here are two videos where I tried to show the stutter as best as possible, it's definitely not as noticeable on video but:
https://vimeo.com/226332332
https://vimeo.com/226331998

Hope this helps

FabioXN7 · Jul 20, 2017

Hello gk712, sorry for the long delay to post a reply, was really busy at work, but now let's see -

Regarding your problem on first image, see if this helps, I've never had this issue in minecraft so I don't really know what that would be..

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/players-disconnecting-in-certain-chunks.70816/

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-100789

Now regarding your 2 videos, I didn't really noticed any problem with Disk Usage like crazy jumps or anything from 0% to 99%, and it looks like both CPU and GPU are working in harmony and not the other way around, when i mean "in harmony" I mean that both are working at decent percentage like 30% for GPU and 30 ~ 40% for CPU and not 99% for one and 10% to the other, if that was the case then I would say that you could be suffering from bottlenecking, but I don't think thats the case, also in the first video I've noticed a freeze at 00:19 to 00:20 was that due video recording? Or it was a stutter? And then at around 00:24 to 00:25 there was another little freeze, can you confirm if this is the stuttering you are having?

In the second video I've noticed a fps loss due teleportation and map rendering but that is normal and then a little freeze at 00:23 to 00:24 once again...

The thing is, it doesn't really sound to be a problem with your computer at all because if you notice even when you get these little freezes your fps still remains at around 90 to 112, a really heavy stuttering would occasionally make your fps drop to like 20 or 30 and then jump it back to normal..

gk712 · Jul 21, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Sorry for the late reply. I think the best example is the one you pointed out in the second video. it's really hard to pinpoint and sometimes it doesn't happen consistently so it's kind of hard to record. However the game in general just doesn't feel as smooth as games such as call of duty or overwatch, and I just feel like if anything, Minecraft should feel the smoothest. I have a problem now when I try to launch minecraft, after i press play, the launcher supposedly closes and I get to the Mojang loading screen before everything just crashes. I found a way to fix it, which is force quitting the launcher every single time I press play, and this allows me to get into the game and play. However I just want to be able to press play and get into the game with no issues or anything and I haven't found a way to do that as of yet.

gk712 · Jul 21, 2017

FabioXN7 :

Hello gk712, sorry for the long delay to post a reply, was really busy at work, but now let's see -

Regarding your problem on first image, see if this helps, I've never had this issue in minecraft so I don't really know what that would be..

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/players-disconnecting-in-certain-chunks.70816/

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-100789

Now regarding your 2 videos, I didn't really noticed any problem with Disk Usage like crazy jumps or anything from 0% to 99%, and it looks like both CPU and GPU are working in harmony and not the other way around, when i mean "in harmony" I mean that both are working at decent percentage like 30% for GPU and 30 ~ 40% for CPU and not 99% for one and 10% to the other, if that was the case then I would say that you could be suffering from bottlenecking, but I don't think thats the case, also in the first video I've noticed a freeze at 00:19 to 00:20 was that due video recording? Or it was a stutter? And then at around 00:24 to 00:25 there was another little freeze, can you confirm if this is the stuttering you are having?

In the second video I've noticed a fps loss due teleportation and map rendering but that is normal and then a little freeze at 00:23 to 00:24 once again...

The thing is, it doesn't really sound to be a problem with your computer at all because if you notice even when you get these little freezes your fps still remains at around 90 to 112, a really heavy stuttering would occasionally make your fps drop to like 20 or 30 and then jump it back to normal..

Also for some reason now, I can't reinstall optifine. When i click on the jar file simply nothing happens.

FabioXN7 · Jul 21, 2017

gk712 :

FabioXN7 :

Also for some reason now, I can't reinstall optifine. When i click on the jar file simply nothing happens.

Maybe this will help? https://hypixel.net/threads/cant-run-optifine-installer-help-pls.497955/

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