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server to gaming rig?
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James Mason
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not support, it doesn't have the pci express slot, any slot it seems
this server is just two sockets for cpus and lots of ram slots, thats it
if it was the desktop model, that one has pci express slot iirc
the problem with servers as gaming pcs is the noise, they are very noisy so a server as gaming pc, perhaps those in workstation form are more desirable but not ideal
this server is just two sockets for cpus and lots of ram slots, thats it
if it was the desktop model, that one has pci express slot iirc
the problem with servers as gaming pcs is the noise, they are very noisy so a server as gaming pc, perhaps those in workstation form are more desirable but not ideal
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but there are servers with pci express slots? i think there are i found cheap servers from 10-100 euros
James Mason
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And their CPUs of those cheap ones are usually complete garbage for gaming. Server CPUs are typically really slow by comparison to desktop equivalents, and games care far more about CPU speed then whether not the calculations being performed at exactly correct.
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yes there is some but those ar usually 2u
the height, you mention there a 1u server, is very short, and when it operates it sounds like a jet engine, it has at least 4 fans inside, small ones
those servers are meant to go in racks, server racks and they are meant to be as thin as possible to put as many servers on a rack, so the 1u and 2u are units, the less units of space in height they use the better, usually a server that can fit a gpu is a 4u, using 4 slots of a server rack, those are big and heavy, also expensive
what you would need is a server but not for rack, for desktop, those often can fit gpus inside, but they are expensive most of the times and psu is sometimes not powerfull enough or doesn't have the power cables required by most gpus
the height, you mention there a 1u server, is very short, and when it operates it sounds like a jet engine, it has at least 4 fans inside, small ones
those servers are meant to go in racks, server racks and they are meant to be as thin as possible to put as many servers on a rack, so the 1u and 2u are units, the less units of space in height they use the better, usually a server that can fit a gpu is a 4u, using 4 slots of a server rack, those are big and heavy, also expensive
what you would need is a server but not for rack, for desktop, those often can fit gpus inside, but they are expensive most of the times and psu is sometimes not powerfull enough or doesn't have the power cables required by most gpus
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i checked the cpus i want to buy 35 euro each i look at passmark [Dual CPU] Intel Xeon E5-2420 @ 1.90GHz Average CPU Mark 11832 i think that isnt bad
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i dont mind the noise and i will still throw out the case of the server and put it like in a shoe box or something
James Mason
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Only because you don't know what you're looking at.
A) That's a dual CPU, so it's actually two of them working to get that number.
B) Games can not use multiple CPUs, software has to be programed in a very specific way to even recognize a 2nd CPU is in the system to work with, and games never are.
C) The total passmark score isn't great for measuring how games will perform on it, the single thread score is, as games are largely more single threaded than multi threaded.
=1213&cmp[]=2925]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1213&cmp[]=2925
Here's a dual core with nearly double the single threaded score of the 6-core xeon.
You also can't take the server out of the case either because the motherboard for these servers are nearly as big as the entire case is, like 2-3 feet long. No normal desktop case will support it.
Also these things run very hot, so they really do need pretty good fans.
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you haven't heard the noise of a rack server, not tolerable at all, not for the room of a person not for a house
if you find those servers cheap, they are great as servers, not as desktop pcs, they have very few usb ports, never usb 3 and they usually dont have much sata ports and often those ports are sata II
try to find a proliant desktop model
something like this
https://www.amazon.com/HP-ProLiant-ML10-v2-i3-4150/dp/B01M7U169Y/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499879361&sr=1-11&keywords=proliant+desktop+server
those often have a pci express slot to put a gpu, the problm as i mentioned is the psu, sometimes can be easily replaced with a normal desktop psu
in general you will have better experience with a old sff pc
if you find those servers cheap, they are great as servers, not as desktop pcs, they have very few usb ports, never usb 3 and they usually dont have much sata ports and often those ports are sata II
try to find a proliant desktop model
something like this
https://www.amazon.com/HP-ProLiant-ML10-v2-i3-4150/dp/B01M7U169Y/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499879361&sr=1-11&keywords=proliant+desktop+server
those often have a pci express slot to put a gpu, the problm as i mentioned is the psu, sometimes can be easily replaced with a normal desktop psu
in general you will have better experience with a old sff pc
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can you link us to those examples? those videos
the 2 cpus, the game possibly will only use one of the two cpus and be happy with that, some games do use more gpu than cpu so that is posible, but the server must have pci express slots to install a gpu, the one you linked doesn't have any so you can't put a gpu and is not even viable to watch youtube videos with the 2 or 8 megabytes onboard gpu it usually has
your best bet for a cheap gaming pc is buy used parts and assemble a normal pc
the 2 cpus, the game possibly will only use one of the two cpus and be happy with that, some games do use more gpu than cpu so that is posible, but the server must have pci express slots to install a gpu, the one you linked doesn't have any so you can't put a gpu and is not even viable to watch youtube videos with the 2 or 8 megabytes onboard gpu it usually has
your best bet for a cheap gaming pc is buy used parts and assemble a normal pc
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James Mason
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They aren't rack servers, or if they are, they're the much larger high end ones that do allow GPUs. There are some dual socket desktop motherboards, but those are primarily for workstations. And the high end xeon CPUs are okay for gaming, but they're gonna run like a $1000 a piece, and they're still horrible for gaming for what you pay for them.
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the server in the video is a 4u, 4 units high server, those are very expensive
they are really noisy but less noisy than a 1u server you linked in the first place
on those servers usually you get no hard disk so you need to buy one
those servers need special psus usually so you can't change them easily, or is a cheap change
on those servers most times you only get 2 gbs of ram, ecc ram, tht ram is more expensive and is ddr2 most times, some are ddr3 ecc
usually you buy that server and has only 1 cpu, you are talking about 2 cpus there, to get that you need to buy the cpu compatible with the one it already has, also you need the heatsink that it usually doesn't have and fans for it that goes in the case, not in the heatsink
convert a server into a gaming pc is not easy or cheap an the results are not that great
they are really noisy but less noisy than a 1u server you linked in the first place
on those servers usually you get no hard disk so you need to buy one
those servers need special psus usually so you can't change them easily, or is a cheap change
on those servers most times you only get 2 gbs of ram, ecc ram, tht ram is more expensive and is ddr2 most times, some are ddr3 ecc
usually you buy that server and has only 1 cpu, you are talking about 2 cpus there, to get that you need to buy the cpu compatible with the one it already has, also you need the heatsink that it usually doesn't have and fans for it that goes in the case, not in the heatsink
convert a server into a gaming pc is not easy or cheap an the results are not that great
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It might get a decent score due to the multithreaded performance from having two 6 core/12 thread processors, but that is not at all relevant for games, most of which don't currently utilize much more than 4 cores. For games, the single-threaded performance tends to be more important. Here's a good example, comparing one of those processors against a cheap Pentium G4560...
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E5-2420-0-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4560/m4926vs3892
The Pentium only has 2 cores and 4 threads, but each core is much faster, so it comes out well ahead even in the quad-core benchmarks there. And installing two of the processors isn't going to help with that at all, just add more multi-threading capability, which could definitely help in something like video encoding, but isn't going to provide much benefit in most software, including games, where you would likely be seeing half the frame rates compared to that Pentium in many CPU-limited titles.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E5-2420-0-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4560/m4926vs3892
The Pentium only has 2 cores and 4 threads, but each core is much faster, so it comes out well ahead even in the quad-core benchmarks there. And installing two of the processors isn't going to help with that at all, just add more multi-threading capability, which could definitely help in something like video encoding, but isn't going to provide much benefit in most software, including games, where you would likely be seeing half the frame rates compared to that Pentium in many CPU-limited titles.
James Mason
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The CPUs he's using in that video are much better than the ones you're planning to use:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2670+%40+2.60GHz
He still had to heavily modify his case for it.
And not only that, servers only support rather slow ram, which is big hindrance for gaming.
You can not listen to our advice if you really want, and end up with a big loud hot piece of junk.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2670+%40+2.60GHz
He still had to heavily modify his case for it.
And not only that, servers only support rather slow ram, which is big hindrance for gaming.
You can not listen to our advice if you really want, and end up with a big loud hot piece of junk.
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